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#1 jasonluckydog

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:00 PM


Dr. Eben Alexander has taught at Harvard Medical School and has earned a strong reputation as a neurosurgeon. And while Alexander says he's long called himself a Christian, he never held deeply religious beliefs or a pronounced faith in the afterlife.

But after a week in a coma during the fall of 2008, during which his neocortex ceased to function, Alexander claims he experienced a life-changing visit to the afterlife, specifically heaven.

"According to current medical understanding of the brain and mind, there is absolutely no way that I could have experienced even a dim and limited consciousness during my time in the coma, much less the hyper-vivid and completely coherent odyssey I underwent," Alexander writes in the cover story of this week's edition of Newsweek.

So what exactly does heaven look like?

Alexander says he first found himself floating above clouds before witnessing, "transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamer like lines behind them."

He claims to have been escorted by an unknown female companion and says he communicated with these beings through a method of correspondence that transcended language. Alexander says the messages he received from those beings loosely translated as:

"You are loved and cherished, dearly, forever."

"You have nothing to fear."

"There is nothing you can do wrong."



The video in the link is pretty cool
I found this very comforting for some reason, I consider myself a christian but not super religious

http://news.yahoo.co...-213527063.html

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:56 PM

No virgins? Faaark

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:20 PM

I mentioned this in the tinderbox:

Your neocortex cannot "cease to function"...you can slow down metabolic activity to a bare minimum but what he claims basically says you can live without axon activity.

Now he's trying to market a book claiming he's been to heaven.

What he is calling heaven is no different than someone saying there is base consciousness. He's skewing anecdotal perspective with scientific data.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:21 PM

...in other news, apparently this woman saw Micheal Jackson being tormented by demons in hell.

http://www.testimoni...hell/#more-1419


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:22 PM

I mentioned this in the tinderbox:

Your neocortex cannot "cease to function"...you can slow down metabolic activity to a bare minimum but what he claims basically says you can live without axon activity.

Now he's trying to market a book claiming he's been to heaven.

What he is calling heaven is no different than someone saying there is base consciousness. He's skewing anecdotal perspective with scientific data.


Your probably right, what does a neurosurgeon from Harvard know....

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:25 PM

Your probably right, what does a neurosurgeon from Harvard know....


you clearly don't understand my post

anecdotal perspective v. scientific data due to a forced deficiency in axon activity

If you went under what he did, you could have experienced living between Brooklyn Deckers tits...its showing consciousness exists outside the object receiver

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:29 PM

you clearly don't understand my post

anecdotal perspective v. scientific data due to a forced deficiency in axon activity

If you went under what he did, you could have experienced living between Brooklyn Deckers tits...its showing consciousness exists outside the object receiver


Wait wait wait, how can I experience living bw Brooklyn Deckers tits?

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:33 PM

Wait wait wait, how can I experience living bw Brooklyn Deckers tits?


Ok, so if we continue to explore and figure more about the brain, we could in theory be able to identify the specific generator of consciousness (i.e. what some people believe to be the pineal gland or more mainstream scientists will say is within the neocortex). I personally believe this could happen within 20 years.

In this regard, we could be able down the road to implant subcortical structures that will generate specific conscious activity...such as the idea of living infinitely between Brooklyn Decker's tits in a metaphysical realm

Its all a natural matrix

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:47 AM

hahahahahahahaha omfg what a retard

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:23 AM

I still want a Zombie apocalypse.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 06:22 AM

Your probably right, what does a neurosurgeon from Harvard know....


And it begins...

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 07:55 AM

I believe humans and all living things consist of 2 things, physical body and consciousness. Physical body will parish but consciousness will live forever. Do you ever feel like your consciousness and your physical body are two different entities? Do you ever feel like you can leave your physical body? Many people do.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:38 AM

Fractals

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:26 AM

Not convinced. Until I hear an lifelong atheist say they saw heaven I'm not convinced. I don't care if he's not very religious, he's still Christian and has an idea of heaven. So it's not in the least bit suprising that he had a vision of it. If I was hit by a bus and had visions of angels and pearly gates, then I would have to rethink my atheism. If on the other hand I had a vision of being at a Comic Con attended solely by Hooter's Girls, I wouldn't think that place was REAL, I'd just it was like any other dream.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:20 AM

Wait wait wait, how can I experience living bw Brooklyn Deckers tits?


What kahakai is trying to say, as simply as I can put it - is heaven is what you make of it, and that the conscious realm tends to lend itself to an unconscious realm, relative to what you deem as heaven. The body can be in a state of non-physical existence (you're dead) but you can still perceive yourself as you want - weather it be in the clouds, with a ton of virgins or between someone's tits. Only when your mind realizes your body as you know it now ceases to function could it be possible to realize yourself in a realm perceived as heaven. It's really hard to go more 'layman' than that without getting into the science of it all.

A loose interpretation of this (in recent movies) is in Duncan Jones's 'Source Code'


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