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JStew and Williams are def 1st rounders... Anybody who thinks differently is just dumb

lol. What someone is "worth" and what you can get for them are two ENTIRELY different stories. There is no way he will go for a first, no way.

TruCatzFan, there is a thing in the NFL called "leverage", and if the Panthers dealt him, they wouldn't have much of it. 3rd or a 4th rounder would be ideal in the situation that the Panthers are in. But if they commit to rebuilding, they could very well use the pick.

....then again.. I could be just 'dumb' in your words. ha

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There are several teams in dire need of a RB at the moment actually.

Off the top of my head:

GB

Ariz

Det

Just to name a few...

Does anybody really want to take on the contract and give up a 1st rndr though??

JStew and Williams are def 1st rounders... Anybody who thinks differently is just dumb

Uhm many critisized the Browns for taking Trent Richardson in the top ten and he is a beast.

Stewart isnt even worth a late first and hes the better back, you dont get poo for rb's especially one in his 30's we definitely need to figure out how were gonna go about this log jam at rb though, it really is very stupid.

At first I thought it would be awesome, in reality its not. Thats usually 2 players getting paid big money standing on the sideline every play, usually. Thats money we could put in other areas, and need to

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the team is going to just have to live with it's stupid decisions

It seems people are beginning to understand why some have been upset with the move from the beginning...which is nothing personal about Deangello at all.

You have to remember that while everyone is gearing up to stop the pass these days, we will run it right down there throats. We are starting a new trend in the league. Naw, I'm just shitting you. It was pretty damn stupid to sign that deal.

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Is there any team that will take DWill's contract? I would hate to see him go, but the money he is making to carry the ball 8-10 times is just fugin stupid. We should be able to at least get a late first. IMO this HAS to happen to save Hurneys ass.

Maybe in some alternate universe, but not this one. And why would you want to save Hurney's ass?! I want JR gone, Hurney gone, Rivera gone- just for starters. Until then, I'll keep watching the unfolding of continuous comedy gold that is the Carolina Panthers organization. Comedy is the only value provided by this franchise. If we look at it that way, it's not so bad. Just think of us as a real life Bad News Bears. Through those lenses it's still entertaining at least.

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See my response to the same question in the Beason thread. Neither Beason nor DWill are tradeable either from a value standpoint or from a cap standpoint.

They are ours, like it or not.

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He is gone or Marty restructures his contract after this season. He's a good player to have around but there comes a point where business takes priority, even Marty knows this. He restructures at least three contracts every offseason to prove that

You guys really don't understand how trading players for picks works, do you? About the only way you get a first rounder for someone is a player like Calvin Johnson or Pierre Paul. A Top Tier player, a game changer. D-Will, despite the fact he is a very good player, might fetch a 4th, 3rd is way pushing it. He's aging and his production is down, plus the crazy big contract. Not to mention RB's are a dime a dozen these days.

You do realize there are many people out there who are avid football fans who have probably never heard of D-Will, right? The Panthers aren't exactly the center of the universe and D-Will is no Ray Rice...

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you could get a 1st for him if you didnt have that massive contract - with it its a low 3rd unless they are desperate then you might get a loooooow 2 if lucky. Like lottery lucky.

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Is there any team that will take DWill's contract? I would hate to see him go, but the money he is making to carry the ball 8-10 times is just fugin stupid. We should be able to at least get a late first. IMO this HAS to happen to save Hurneys ass.

If it means getting rid of Hurney, then I say keep him....

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