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Mr. Scot

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The head coach would probably turn things around faster but I'd rather replace someone who would turn it around possibly more slowly but more likely in a lasting manner. I agree that getting a good quality GM in place would take longer but I think it would be an overall better end product.

You could possibly give the new GM, who would inherit a cap problem, leeway until after he can offload / let expire contracts that he doesn't want / we shouldn't have and get past the job not being the most desirable in the world.

don't get me wrong, I am over defending Hurney. But whats the point in getting a new GM if you know he's going to keep Rivera?

In all honesty, the op did not give the option but I think you if your going to clean house then you need to clean house. I would have actually been okay with firing Hurney when we fired fox and starting fresh but can't change the past.

So my approach from there was to give Hurney a clean slate with his new head coach. So I gave himk a clean slate but the 2 do not seem to be on the same page.

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Without picking sides does anyone think Hurney/Rivera seem to be in sync or working in harmony on the personell of this team?

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don't get me wrong, I am over defending Hurney. But whats the point in getting a new GM if you know he's going to keep Rivera?

In all honesty, the op did not give the option but I think you if your going to clean house then you need to clean house. I would have actually been okay with firing Hurney when we fired fox and starting fresh but can't change the past.

So my approach from there was to give Hurney a clean slate with his new head coach. So I gave himk a clean slate but the 2 do not seem to be on the same page.

Thing is I don't know that a new GM will keep Rivera. In fact I think it's highly likely that a new GM comes in here we have a new coach within a year if not at the exact same time. With that comes a whole new staff. Replacing the GM effectively is the "clean slate" option...because in all likelihood they're gonna want their guys in here, not to be the GM for a team full of staff they may or may not believe in.

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Without picking sides does anyone think Hurney/Rivera seem to be in sync or working in harmony on the personell of this team?

I don't think any part of this organization that's responsible for personnel is working as intended.

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I'd fire Chud before McDermott and Rivera. Rivera before Marty, but Marty has to go with Rivera.

All hell, I'll fit them all.

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don't get me wrong, I am over defending Hurney. But whats the point in getting a new GM if you know he's going to keep Rivera?

What's the point in firing Rivera if Hurney has no ability to manage a roster? Get a guy who has a real vision of running a team and let him evaluate Rivera. You can always make that change but the GM spot is the foundation. You need to get that correct or you will continue to make the blunders we have seen and continue to have large talent gaps.

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Two losing records with two different coaches. Its clear that Hurney needs to be fired and the next GM allowed to do what he sees fit. The probilty of this happing... 10% The likely hood of JR and Hurney blaming a young team and injuries... 100%

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Rivera is going to let Chud get him fired anyway. How can you be an ex player/ defensive guy, and sign off on this read option BS.

I may keep Marty, but only because I fear they'll replace him with the Bears old GM.

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If I had a chance to fire someone at this moment it would be Marty Hurney. To be honest about it Hurney should of been fired when the Panthers let John Fox go. I rather let the new GM make the decision on whether Rivera should follow or not. If this case present its self in the near future their is a good chance Rivera could follow.

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