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What if Cam was Matt Ryan

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The problem i have with Cam isnt his skin color its the fact hes not playing to his potintial right now not even close.

What is Cam's potential? Where should he be right now?

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What is Cam's potential? Where should he be right now?

because carolina has been so media starved for attention they let the media slob all over newton...so he should be the goat right now.

and people wonder why indy insists on sheltering luck from the media as much as possible.

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because carolina has been so media starved for attention they let the media slob all over newton...so he should be the goat right now.

and people wonder why indy insists on sheltering luck from the media as much as possible.

Nowhere in your post did you tell me where Cam Newton should be right now. What is his potential? Please dont use cliche's like "goat" or win totals. Statistically what do you typically want to see in a 2nd year QB? And what SHOULD Cam be producing right now?

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Nowhere in your post did you tell me where Cam Newton should be right now. What is his potential? Please dont use cliche's like "goat" or win totals. Statistically what do you typically want to see in a 2nd year QB? And what SHOULD Cam be producing right now?

you don't get it.

it doesn't matter what newton is or should be doing statistically, he will catch the brunt of the negative attention because the panthers are losing.

if the panthers were 5-0, on the verge of losing their sixth game, and was on the sidelines cussing everyone out...he'd been seen as trying to motivate his team. they would say he was developing as a leader.

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you don't get it.

it doesn't matter what newton is or should be doing statistically, he will catch the brunt of the negative attention because the panthers are losing.

if the panthers were 5-0, on the verge of losing their sixth game, and was on the sidelines cussing everyone out...he'd been seen as trying to motivate his team.

So basically you have no clue what Cam's potential is. I asked you a simple specific question and you chose to deflect. No point in engaging you anymore.

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So basically you have no clue what Cam's potential is. I asked you a simple specific question and you chose to deflect. No point in engaging you anymore.

oh i get it...this is one of those side off topic subjects that steer the thread into another direction.

i'm sorry.

i have no clue what cam newton's potential is...the same way i have no idea what rg3, dalton, ponder, luck, or any other 1-2 year qb's potential is.

back on topic...newton set statistical personal records last season, and the expectation for the team's success was set high based on that. but until this team consistently wins like everyone thinks they have the potential to do, he will be scrutinized...

...because that's what happens to all quarterbacks at one point or another.

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His potential is to win games. Your right he had good stats in that win at atlanta oh wait thats right we lost that game. Who was it that fumbled that ball when the game was iced? Cant remeber that guys name to save my life im sure i will think of it later. And then we where playing Seattle had a guy standing wide open in the End Zone to ice another game. Who was that again again drawing a blank. Help me out here. Cam himself says he has to get better. So why is it you cant say it. Are you so rapped up in race that you cant see past his skin color. Isnt that the very definition of a racist? But your right im the racist because i say the same thing about a player that the player himself is saying!

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His potential is to win games. Your right he had good stats in that win at atlanta oh wait thats right we lost that game. Who was it that fumbled that ball when the game was iced? Cant remeber that guys name to save my life im sure i will think of it later. And then we where playing Seattle had a guy standing wide open in the End Zone to ice another game. Who was that again again drawing a blank. Help me out here. Cam himself says he has to get better. So why is it you cant say it. Are you so rapped up in race that you cant see past his skin color. Isnt that the very definition of a racist? But your right im the racist because i say the same thing about a player that the player himself is saying!

More cliche. I asked about stats and #'s, you brought up "race" talk. Where should Cam be in his 2nd year? Yards, YPA, completion %, where is that in your post? I asked a simple question and you threw the race card. WHAT IS CAM'S POTENTIAL?

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Seattle 12-29 141 no Td's no int's. for the season had thrown more int's than Td's. 4TD's 5INT's. So on an average thru 5 games thats less tahn 1 Td per game. Am i saying those losses are all Cams fault no. But is cam part of the team and deserves some of the blame yes. And is Cam himself saying the same thing "YES". So yes i agree with Cam hes not playing up to his potential. If you want to water it down and make excuses thats up to you. Defense isnt playing up to there potential either. Same thing for the O-line and the Rb's hell and the Wr's for that matter. But unlike you i lump Cam in with the losses not exclude him from the team and go its ok Cam your only part of the team when we win. week 4 15/24 215 yards 2td's 9 rushes 86 yards 1 td on the ground. 119.3 QBR oh yeah and 1 fumble win the game was iced. I like how you left that fact out of all your stats. And if you dont believe me go to Panthers.com and listen to any of Cams interviews and he will tell you! This team was saying before the season started playoffs playoffs playoffs. This isnt a playoff "TEAM" and im not sure if your aware of this or not Cam is on this "TEAM". So not playing up to his potential along with the rest of the "TEAM"

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I think you fail to understand the criticisms of Cam. The fans and the media WANT cam to do what Ryan is doing. Screaming in anger of losing is a positive sign. Sitting with a towel over your head alone does not look like leadership.

Nobody cares that he's black except for some Panthers fans who are insecure now that their QB isn't quite as good as they imagined.

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the fact of the matter is that the Panthers problems are more complex than Cam Newton putting a towel over his head on the sideline. We're not losing because he's sulking. Every QB sulks now and then. Every QB has cursed like a trucker after throwing an interception. But the Panthers aren't winning so obviously that's because Cam Newton isn't doing anything right, and the Falcons are undefeated so Matt Ryan could jackoff on the sideline and it would be considered an expression of a winner's attitude.

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Proof that the double-standard is alive and well.

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