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#46 Inimicus

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:10 PM

Well, kind of, it's the convinced of video games that makes it worse than those other things I don't think you can golf for 24 or more hours straight, etc. At least overall gaming is cheaper than a lot of other hobbies.


My grandmother nearly divorced my grandfather after he retired because he played between 36 and 45 holes of golf 6 days a week. Teed off at 8ish in the morning and would come home around dinner time.

You may not be able to play golf for 24 straight hours but you can play it enough to create the same problems that playing video games does.

I've golfed and fished (still do on occasion). But those hobbies don't have the instant gratification or constant rewards like video games. Video games are definitely more addicting.


Again Ill refer to my granddad who was chasing a -10 handicap. To him the difference in 1 more putt per round or hole was all he needed to feed that monkey.


Any behavior can display the qualities and consequences of addiction. Its quite simple actually, when it begins to negatively impact your life or the people you care about you've probably gone too far.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:13 PM

what they do to your brain isn't exactly the same thing as tying flies or playing golf... watching tv≠ reading a book.

that said, I play games... though not nearly as much as I used to. A few hours a week now.

Civ V baby.



On a moment by moment basis, maybe not. But the net effect is the same. Chasing a reward, be it a hole in one, a "killtacular", a fix of dope, or the perfectly tied fly is the motivator that causes folks to pursue a "hobby" to the point that it becomes an addiction like behavior.

Its all just different carrots hanging on different sticks...



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And of course I play video games all the freakin time. My wife understands and is my "canary in the coal mine" for when it starts to go to far. She lets me know, and I don't take it personally.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:16 PM

So here is the troof.
This thread was not about my kid, my husband or anyone in general. I just hear and read about video games causing "junk" and wanted to know others opinions on it.

Dan does play video games. He is totally addicted. It does not affect our relationship. I'm thankful that he has a hobby that he loves. He can spend hours and hours playing. No, I don't think it's normal but who the hell is normal?It does not cause issues except when he gets pissed about something that doesn't go the way he thinks it should because we have to hear him whine, bitch and moan about it. The bitching is more of an annoyance to me than anything, I really don't care. I have my own hobbies such as gardening, and making crafty things. I'm sure he thinks I am abnormal as well. Our sex life is good and always has been. Like I said I'm thankful that he has a hobby he loves and is excited and passionate about. He likes to show me things that happen with the games and I pretend to be excited about it too just to tickle his fancy. At the end of the day, we are both content in our marriage and lives, video games are just a part of it.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:18 PM

If you have the time and want to play go for it.

Says the guy who sold his PS3 to buy christmas gifts for his 1 year old (at the time) son.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:25 PM

what they do to your brain isn't exactly the same thing as tying flies or playing golf... watching tv≠ reading a book.

that said, I play games... though not nearly as much as I used to. A few hours a week now.

Civ V baby.



Dan & the 11 year old daughter love Civilization. They have a love of games in common and talk about it quite a bit. He has all these goals he is trying to meet like trying to win some kind of city thing on something called deity level. Idk wth he means.

She plays minecraft and I have no idea wtf she is talking about most of the time. I just nod and smile.
She wants to play Oblivion but he won't let her play it until she is mature enough. She will be 12 in January and she keeps asking if I think she will be mature enough to play it when she turns 12... again idk wth Oblivion is and I have no idea about anything, so I just tell her to ask her father.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:30 PM

On a moment by moment basis, maybe not. But the net effect is the same. Chasing a reward, be it a hole in one, a "killtacular", a fix of dope, or the perfectly tied fly is the motivator that causes folks to pursue a "hobby" to the point that it becomes an addiction like behavior.

Its all just different carrots hanging on different sticks...



EDIT
And of course I play video games all the freakin time. My wife understands and is my "canary in the coal mine" for when it starts to go to far. She lets me know, and I don't take it personally.



arguable, but regardless... as someone who spent an inordinate amount of time playing video games in high school and college, i wish i had been learning to tie flies.

#52 Jase

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:32 PM

This article is 100% false.

http://www.cnn.com/2...guys/index.html


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#53 LifeisaGarden

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:34 PM

Is porn normal is a completely different thread.

Watching porn causes crazy sex between couples unless one party has jealousy issues.

#54 SZ James

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:53 PM

This article is 100% false.

http://www.cnn.com/2...guys/index.html


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lol, The top comment on that article is brutal



#55 h0llywood

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:40 PM

It really all boils down to the person holding the controller.

If that person is irresponsible outside of video games, then he or she will not know what responsible and healthy video gaming is. A person who is more stable with their relationships, business, school, etc., are more apt to control their desire and curtail the time they play.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:06 PM

Good thread.

I go through fazes. All depending on whats going on in my life. Right now im in a new city with a new job and no kids w/o a serious gf. So when im home i tend to play and when im not i dont really care about video games.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:42 PM

haven't read any posts but i assume OP is a female

anyways, i don't think it matters how much you play as long as you have your priorities straight. some weeks i'll play 20+ hours, other weeks i won't play at all. it all depends on my other obligations.

some people can smoke weed and play video games every day, maintain a 3.7+ GPA and have a social life. some can't.

i'll admit, i have ignored friends/parties to sit at home and play video games. probably a bit too much, especially in high school.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:47 PM

but if a new game comes out that i love (zelda) i'll play that poo for 10+ hrs straight

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:59 PM

I don't know when D&D type games actually evolved but the basic idea is primal for men (and some women).

You press the button and you get a little prize. It's not addictive but satisfying.

It's fun to work towards a new piece of armor or a new hat or whatever. Pretty much any game that is played today is based on time and rank. It's human nature to want to move to the next level.

Or simply win the game.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:09 PM

There's a big difference between your brain releasing chemicals and making connections based on something that you're doing vs a chemical that you put into your body that simulates the normal neurotransmitters and then artificially gives you the same feeling. Addiction to drugs is a very different thing than enjoying an activity.


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