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#97 Peppers90 NC

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:43 PM

i hate they only compare white QB busts to guys like Leaf, Couch, Carr etc. it's soooo not fair.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:57 PM

i hate they only compare white QB busts to guys like Leaf, Couch, Carr etc. it's soooo not fair.


Difference is that most white QBs don't get called busts on draft day (or even in their 2nd or 3rd season for that matter), other than The Golden Calf of Bristol because of his awful throwing motion. Cam has had to deal with Jamarcus Russell comparisons from day one (still haven't heard a good reason for that one), and now Vince Young. Sam Bradford, Jake Locker, and Blaine Gabbert have been largely underwhelming given their draft position to this point in their career, but I never hear any of those guys get compared to Tim Couch, David Carr, JP Losman, etc.

Edit: Seriously, re-reading Grits' post about Cousins should be starting over RG3 = lol

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 08:17 AM

I would trade Cam right now for Luck or Tannehill.

Both have their teams singing their praises as leaders and both have more than one win.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 08:25 AM

I would trade Cam right now for Luck or Tannehill.

Both have their teams singing their praises as leaders and both have more than one win.


Cam is a bigger leader than any of those guys, and a better player. The wins will come as our team continues to rally around him. Neither Luck or Tannehill is playing great right now, so it'd be a foolish trade on your part. You dont trade a pro bowl QB for average QBing.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:20 PM

Watch the two play and watch the differing types of throws each make. Cam's problem right now is just the short routes. I don't know if it's touch or he just can't take power off of the throw to allow it to drop into zone coverages.



IMO, its experience. I think he sometimes forgets to set his feet for the short ones or rushes them more than he needs to. I think (or at least I hope) that he will eventually solve those problems.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:28 PM

Difference is that most white QBs don't get called busts on draft day (or even in their 2nd or 3rd season for that matter), other than The Golden Calf of Bristol because of his awful throwing motion. Cam has had to deal with Jamarcus Russell comparisons from day one (still haven't heard a good reason for that one), and now Vince Young. Sam Bradford, Jake Locker, and Blaine Gabbert have been largely underwhelming given their draft position to this point in their career, but I never hear any of those guys get compared to Tim Couch, David Carr, JP Losman, etc.

Edit: Seriously, re-reading Grits' post about Cousins should be starting over RG3 = lol



You haven't been talking to many Jacksonville fans then. Gabbert and bust have become common talk in that area. And there are definitely some comparison's to past bust, although I don't think that Gabbert came in with anywhere near the hype Bradford or Carr did.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:33 PM

I would trade Cam right now for Luck or Tannehill.

Both have their teams singing their praises as leaders and both have more than one win.


Right now, there isn't a lot of difference between Luck and Newton in terms of performance. Luck might be in a slightly better situation as Indy didn't have the expectations that Carolina did this season. Basically, there is a lot less pressure on him (similar to Cam last year). But I wouldn't trade Newton for Luck and certainly not for Tannehill.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:59 PM

You haven't been talking to many Jacksonville fans then. Gabbert and bust have become common talk in that area. And there are definitely some comparison's to past bust, although I don't think that Gabbert came in with anywhere near the hype Bradford or Carr did.


Jacksonville has fans?

In all seriousness, he might get local hate, but nowhere near the national scrutiny of how bad he's been thus far as compared to Cam. This is despite the Todd mcshays of the world claiming he was much of a sure bet to succeed than Cam was before last years draft.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:10 PM

Luck's making a run at Cam's single game rookie passing mark, at 307 late in the 3rd

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:00 PM

Luck has broken Cam's single game rookie record, now at 432.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:19 PM

Yep, he just beat cams record

433 yards 2TD and 0 INT

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:29 PM

Luck had a great day today and got a big win over them Dolphins. Props to Luck on his record setting performance today.