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#13 nobody

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:41 PM

Or just figures its not man made and if the sun decides to go solar flare us to death we cant do anything about it. So sit back and pass the sun screen. Your scaring the fish.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:46 PM

James Hansen, the most recognizable name in climatology and GW not named Al Gore, made some climate models in the 1980s that were pretty damn uncanny even for back then when measuring tools weren't what they are now.

You might already be aware of this but back in 1981 he was right about the warming in the 1980s and accurately predicted the trend to continue for the next two decades. Even when this was shortly after the 1970s when people were still on the global cooling bandwagon.

He was also right about increased snow fall and net ice sheet growth. This where it starts to get really remarkable. Even though someone posted an op-ed the other day [stirs I think] that this proves GW is a hoax! [it doesn't] This argument is still being recycled again and again.

here's the model with the actual record added for comparison:

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The report is here and also gets many things right that I Ieft out
http://pubs.giss.nas...Hansen_etal.pdf

-done for today

Edited by James, 16 October 2012 - 04:58 PM.


#15 PhillyB

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 05:02 PM

i would suggest that tracking the geological ice deposits left by the pleistocene and holocene suggest warming trends for a lot longer than anecdotal decade-length reports, but of course the earth is only 4,004 years old so all of those are just satan/democrat/libTARD lies

#16 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 06:06 PM

Anybody that denies climate change or evolution at this point is pretty much scientifically illiterate.


So you are saying that there is absolutely no chance that the general scientific consensus is incorrect? I have to admit that I don't completely understand all the science behind the current theories on climate change (and neither does anyone else who post here unless one of you is a climate scientist) but I do know that all you guys do is argue positions that others come up with. And that while I do believe that its likely that humans are having a negative impact on the earth's enviroment, human knowledge of the earth's enviroment is still to limited to espouse absolutes.

Not to mention such statements are counterproductive.

#17 Delhommey

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 06:52 PM

Gravity is but a theory. We do not know exactly what causes it.

It is possible gravity is caused by the flick of a dragon's tail who lives somewhere in the center of the universe. It is at the same time implausible.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 07:18 PM

since there is so much empirical evidence about when and where and how the climate will change can you fellas pass that along so i can better buy oil futures? thx

#19 Harris Aballah

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:38 PM

man made global warming ends in a pols desk with a bill that legislates taxes on air and carbon emissions. Total recall sh^t. Fun fact: investors at fannie mae hold the patons on the technology for measuring those emissions!

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:49 PM

Gravity is but a theory. We do not know exactly what causes it.

It is possible gravity is caused by the flick of a dragon's tail who lives somewhere in the center of the universe. It is at the same time implausible.



Higgs field?