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Would Mike Holmgren be an upgrade from Ron Rivera?


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#1 beastson52

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:07 PM

I'm not really on the fire Rivera bandwagon but I've always like Holmgren. Should it be something JR considers/pursues (Change of head coach) if we have a total continue to stink it up ALL season?


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Forgot to mention that NFL.com is reporting his gone after this season.

#2 rayzor

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:08 PM

NO.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:13 PM

Crack or meth?

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:14 PM

Worst win percentage in NFL, since 2010
Team Win Pct.

Panthers .243
Browns .263
Rams .316

Going from the Browns to Panthers, he would do nothing.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:14 PM

NO.


Why you say that? He's been pretty accomplished as head coach.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:15 PM

As a coach, I would believe so.

He's not a coach anymore.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:17 PM

we need a few things in the panther org. But starting over is not one of them! On that, keep Rivera bandwagon.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:19 PM

Worst win percentage in NFL, since 2010
Team Win Pct.

Panthers .243
Browns .263
Rams .316

Going from the Browns to Panthers, he would do nothing.


I kinda meant him as head coach.

Career record 161-111-0 (Regular Season)
13-11 (Postseason)
174-122-0 (Overall) Super Bowlwins 1996 Super Bowl XXXI Championships won 2005 NFC Championship
1997 NFC Championship
1996 NFC Championship
Of course I dont even know if Holmgren would want to coach anymore. Just speculation on my part.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:21 PM

He's leaving football for good...not an option. And if he wasn't it'd still be a no.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:23 PM

No - because I don't feel like a retread head coach is the way we need to go.

We need an up and coming coach who has their head in the current state of the game...not in the way it was.

I don't want to see a rehire unless they steal a legendary coach that is CURRENTLY coaching a successful team.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:31 PM

No - because I don't feel like a retread head coach is the way we need to go.

We need an up and coming coach who has their head in the current state of the game...not in the way it was.

I don't want to see a rehire unless they steal a legendary coach that is CURRENTLY coaching a successful team.



Maybe so, but it seems that a team as young as the Panthers would benefit from a veteran head coach. Not a knock on Chico because I know these things take time but, this team doesn't look very discipline. I just have a hard time believing that a hard nosed head coach would allow Steve Smith to keep doing the nonsense he's been doing as of late.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:35 PM

Maybe so, but it seems that a team as young as the Panthers would benefit from a veteran head coach. Not a knock on Chico because I know these things take time but, this team doesn't look very discipline. I just have a hard time believing that a hard nosed head coach would allow Steve Smith to keep doing the nonsense he's been doing as of late.


Better formula for a young team IMO:

Get a young up and coming head coach who has his head in the current game and surround him with coordinators who have some head coaching experience if you can. Find former HCs (or very long time coordinators) and let them do what their specialty is...but have a guy with some vision guiding the ship.

This obviously relies on also having a GM who shares a modern vision with the coach, but it lets you have vision and stay current while still having some hardasses on the staff that can provide discipline. Not to mention they can be there to help guide the young coach through some of the troubles of BEING a young coach.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:45 PM

He's retiring from what I've read.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:50 PM

Why you say that? He's been pretty accomplished as head coach.

old.

from another era.

his eyes are already on the door.

no people on the back side of their career, please.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:14 PM

YES, honestly it would be. Not to mention the fact that he is notoriously friendly with his QB! (Brett Favre)

Might allow Cam to actually make checks and call audibles!


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