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#16 NanuqoftheNorth

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:07 AM

Hurney Magic!

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:21 AM

First this is not a thread to bitch, this is my opinion based on facts of whats wrong with our offense, I have read post after post during the bye week, of whats wrong and why its wrong. Its Hurney, Rivera, JR, etc. The real problem is so simple its stupid.

We have 80 million dollars ( something like that exact number is insignificant ) invested in our RB's and our leading rusher is our QB...

Our Quarterback lol

Marty Hurney really couldnt figure out that we needed a WR2 to open up things for Smith, or too pull the Safety out of the box so they cant even spy Cam if they wanted too ( according to Rivera teams are dropping down a Safety to spy Cam this year)...Instead he drops money on another RB?! Dont even ask why our offense looks horrible, you already know..

Cam : 40 carries / 209 yards
Deangelo: 48 carries / 173 yards
Stewart: 25 carries / 107 yards
Tolbert: 11 carries / 26 yards

Im not going to start rattling off names but there are a few teams that have a single rusher who has eclipsed all 4 our guys combined. If i take OUR QB off the above list, you dont even want to see how our RB trio compares. Its ugly. And thats with MILLIONS tied up in the position..

So again,you tell me if a receipe for success in the NFL is:

A. To have your QB be your leading rusher
B. Spend a tremenendous amount of money on a position in decline
C. To Spend a ton on the RB position and still have your QB be your leading rusher lol

From the outside looking in, other teams are laughing at how the Panthers manage the cap.

The Solution:

Now im sure most of you see the problem, and there must be a solution to the problem, and their is. Deangelo must either be traded or released now or at the end of the year. The time of splitting carries with two workhorse running backs passed when we got a QB who can actually make plays ( both with his arm and his feet ) There just isnt enough balls to go around for 2 RB's ( or 3 if you include Tolbert ) You keep a low cost backup with some upside and you go to war. We actually had two guys who looked decent this preseason. Secondly, you MUST add a receiver for Cam to grow with. Smith is on his last legs, and may be gone after next year. This is critical. Whether its the draft or FA ( Mike Wallace ) thats for our GM to decide. But there is no doubt we need someone else for defenses to respect that will keep the safetys away from Cam and away from Smith while hes still here.


The faster Marty Hurney is gone, the better this franchise will be.. We need someone with a fresh evaluation of our players, not someobody who has blind faith on his own draft picks.

The defense has its own mess ( a big one ), but thats for another thread.

I understand what you're saying and I agree with most of it. In my opinion, the amount we have tied up in our RB's isn't our problem. The same two RB's eclipsed the duo rushing record without their current contract figures, i.e. under a different coaching staff, which leads us to our problem: COACHING! No one, including you, expected our offense to struggle this year. For whatever reason, our coaches dumbed down on gamplanning. They've completely changed our offensive attact from last year. We aired it our last year, now we read option.
Don't get me wrong, we do have to much money tied up in our RB's and we do need a legit #2 WR. But we had the same WR's last year when we ranked high in passing offense. COACHING!!!

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:24 AM

why has no one thought of this before?

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:27 AM

For accuracy...

We weren't a high ranked passing offense last year

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:27 AM

why has no one thought of this before?


None of us had the thoughtfulness or insight necessary. I hate myself for not thinking of this.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:28 AM

First this is not a thread to bitch, this is my opinion based on facts of whats wrong with our offense, I have read post after post during the bye week, of whats wrong and why its wrong. Its Hurney, Rivera, JR, etc. The real problem is so simple its stupid.

We have 80 million dollars ( something like that exact number is insignificant ) invested in our RB's and our leading rusher is our QB...

Our Quarterback lol

Marty Hurney really couldnt figure out that we needed a WR2 to open up things for Smith, or too pull the Safety out of the box so they cant even spy Cam if they wanted too ( according to Rivera teams are dropping down a Safety to spy Cam this year)...Instead he drops money on another RB?! Dont even ask why our offense looks horrible, you already know..

Cam : 40 carries / 209 yards
Deangelo: 48 carries / 173 yards
Stewart: 25 carries / 107 yards
Tolbert: 11 carries / 26 yards

Im not going to start rattling off names but there are a few teams that have a single rusher who has eclipsed all 4 our guys combined. If i take OUR QB off the above list, you dont even want to see how our RB trio compares. Its ugly. And thats with MILLIONS tied up in the position..

So again,you tell me if a receipe for success in the NFL is:

A. To have your QB be your leading rusher
B. Spend a tremenendous amount of money on a position in decline
C. To Spend a ton on the RB position and still have your QB be your leading rusher lol

From the outside looking in, other teams are laughing at how the Panthers manage the cap.

The Solution:

Now im sure most of you see the problem, and there must be a solution to the problem, and their is. Deangelo must either be traded or released now or at the end of the year. The time of splitting carries with two workhorse running backs passed when we got a QB who can actually make plays ( both with his arm and his feet ) There just isnt enough balls to go around for 2 RB's ( or 3 if you include Tolbert ) You keep a low cost backup with some upside and you go to war. We actually had two guys who looked decent this preseason. Secondly, you MUST add a receiver for Cam to grow with. Smith is on his last legs, and may be gone after next year. This is critical. Whether its the draft or FA ( Mike Wallace ) thats for our GM to decide. But there is no doubt we need someone else for defenses to respect that will keep the safetys away from Cam and away from Smith while hes still here.


The faster Marty Hurney is gone, the better this franchise will be.. We need someone with a fresh evaluation of our players, not someobody who has blind faith on his own draft picks.

The defense has its own mess ( a big one ), but thats for another thread.



I love this. Thats a great way to put Hurneys mentality.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:46 AM

so who hates themselves for not thinking of this before? hard to believe none of us had the thoughtfulness or insight necessary.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:47 AM

gif approved yet?

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:02 PM

Who: JR / Hurney
What: After Reading Today's Huddle Comments
When: This Afternoon
Where: Carolina Panthers Executive Board Room

JR / Hurney: "So who hates themselves for not thinking of this before? Hard to believe none of us had the thoughtfulness or insight necessary."


There, fixed it for ya!

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:10 PM

There are 398498394839 threads about this.......




just by CRA alone.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:24 PM

Every time i say thread of the year it geys 1 upped

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:36 PM

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:36 PM

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