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#1 AKPantherFan

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 01:09 AM

Just seeing Williams on the sideline behind Fox while Foster is the RB makes me think Fox has to kick his own ass when he re-watches these games.....

Its like sitting Steve Smith for Ricky P.......

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 01:14 AM

He let it go already. You should too.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 01:23 AM

I will never watch last years playoff game again for as long as I live.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 01:24 AM

He let it go already. You should too.


Not really-- I think it will go down of one of Fox's biggest mistakes if he cant win the big one.

Williams will be around for a long while, Fox, maybe not.

Benching the kid in his 1st 2 years as much as he did will be considered a blunder years from now.

Williams always showed speed, shiftiness, and heart. The only thing he wasn't shown until last season was the playing time he needed......

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 02:40 AM

Its not like Williams showings werent impressive.....I dont know what took Fox so long to put him in.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:55 AM

Yea, he usually favors less experienced players. I just don't understand it.

Haha on a more serious note I think he is starting to change his ways. Godfrey, Stewart, Otah, etc...

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:29 AM

I guess people forget that when Williams came to us as a rookie it was said that he needed some time to recover from all the pounding he received in college. I also remember he was hurt and missed a few games. Seems they wanted to ease him into the system and work him into the rotation while helping him learn the protections. Plus Williams always wanted to break it outside and didn't run well between the tackles.

The next year he did get more work and through out the year went from a backup to more of the featured guy. If anyone remembers he was the guy running off the field wanting to get spelled after a few plays due to poor conditioning. Testeverde mentioned that and had some talks with him about his poor work ethic. But he did enough to justify folks cutting Foster and relying on him to be the starter. But even without Foster the jury wasn't totally convinced because we brought in Stewart. It was only after Williams came back with a changed attitude and new resolve to be the main dude did he cement his role as the man. Don't you guys remember how those of us going to camp talked about how different Williams was and how much faster and harder runner he was compared to years past.

Sure Fox could have used him more but it wasn't that we misused him as much as he matured and developed into a stud as he figured it out and developed mentally more than physically.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:02 PM

For those that still don't get it...if you can't pass protect, you won't be the starting RB on most NFL teams. This is not just a John Fox philosophy, this is something that has been going on in the NFL since long before most Huddlers were even born. Williams himself admitted that it took him a while to really learn how to do that. Panthers55 has already explained the rest.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:15 PM

its funny how fast people forget. thats like saying that smith should have started from day 1


I guess people forget that when Williams came to us as a rookie it was said that he needed some time to recover from all the pounding he received in college. I also remember he was hurt and missed a few games. Seems they wanted to ease him into the system and work him into the rotation while helping him learn the protections. Plus Williams always wanted to break it outside and didn't run well between the tackles.

The next year he did get more work and through out the year went from a backup to more of the featured guy. If anyone remembers he was the guy running off the field wanting to get spelled after a few plays due to poor conditioning. Testeverde mentioned that and had some talks with him about his poor work ethic. But he did enough to justify folks cutting Foster and relying on him to be the starter. But even without Foster the jury wasn't totally convinced because we brought in Stewart. It was only after Williams came back with a changed attitude and new resolve to be the main dude did he cement his role as the man. Don't you guys remember how those of us going to camp talked about how different Williams was and how much faster and harder runner he was compared to years past.

Sure Fox could have used him more but it wasn't that we misused him as much as he matured and developed into a stud as he figured it out and developed mentally more than physically.



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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:20 PM

Not really-- I think it will go down of one of Fox's biggest mistakes if he cant win the big one.

Williams will be around for a long while, Fox, maybe not.

Benching the kid in his 1st 2 years as much as he did will be considered a blunder years from now.

Williams always showed speed, shiftiness, and heart. The only thing he wasn't shown until last season was the playing time he needed......




I like to look on the bright side. Stewart is just as good as Williams is now and he can improve. Fox let them split carry's last year and didn't give Williams the bulk like he did Foster. Both our backs are gonna be starts in this league and I hope we can keep both. I think we have the second coming of LT and Turner.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 02:01 PM

panthers55 and monster summed it up... he wasnt ready.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 02:46 PM

I like to look on the bright side. Stewart is just as good as Williams is now and he can improve. Fox let them split carry's last year and didn't give Williams the bulk like he did Foster. Both our backs are gonna be starts in this league and I hope we can keep both. I think we have the second coming of LT and Turner.


They could be better than LT and Turner.

#13 R0CKnR0LLA

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 03:26 PM

Sometimes these things work out in your favor, sometimes they don't. I know alot of people wanted to bench DWill in favor of Stewart after the first 4 games in '08. Just sayin...

Edited by R0CKnR0LLA, 22 May 2009 - 03:33 PM.


#14 nosuchthingasapanther

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 03:46 PM

Sometimes these things work out in your favor, sometimes they don't. I know alot of people wanted to bench DWill in favor of Stewart after the first 4 games in '08. Just sayin...


i don't think anyone was ready to right him off that early in the season.

i'll admit, i was ready to drop him from a few fantasy teams at the bye, but held on because i had a feeling the run game would explode after that. up to the bye, williams wasn't doing much better than stewart. they had the same ypc and stewart had more touchdowns.

people scream about williams being robbed of a pro bowl appearance, but when voting began around mid october, williams had 2 TDs and roughly 350-400 yards.

he started off VERY slow last season.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 04:02 PM

AK's favorite player is DeAngelo and was from the start. Even though it was pretty obvious he needed a little time to settle in I can't blame AK for wanting him to start from the beginning and holding a grudge that Fox didn't do what he wanted. We all have our opinions of what the team needs to do and are pissed off when that doesn't happen as we think it should, that's just fandom...


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