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i didn't see it as a jake bashing session or that it was intended that way. i don't know the intent of the OP but i just saw it as a coach looking back on the type of big plays that killed them last year and jake's lobs to smitty, which we have had a lot of success with because jake knows to trust smith and smith wants the ball more than anyone, was one of the ones that really hurt them.

personally their move to get williams was incredibly smart. they have had problems with defense in a big way for a good while and williams was one of the best choices that they could have made.

i don't see the bucs as being a real threat in the league for a while but i wanted the NFCS to keep the amount of respect that it garnered last year when there was so much talk that we could have 3 teams in the playoffs. i would still like that to happen (mainly just to shove it in the NFCE and big media's faces. since the bucs are heading down the toilet it would be good for the saints to come out stronger on both sides.

i still think we have an edge over them so i'm not too worried. we both had significant upgrades as far as DCs but we have more to work with talent-wise. i would put our offenses on pretty equal billing as far as potency...they just put more through the air and we keep it on the ground but at the end of the day they are among the elite at what they do.

Im not sold on Williams. Del Rio saw no need to keep him around last year and for good reason. There Defense was just as bad as ours last year. Given it is a upgrade for the saints but if Meeks can do with us what he did with the colts then we should be back to top 10 this year.

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It's amazing that people criticize these plays when they work with alarming regularity. All that matters is that you make the play and win the game. You don't get bonus points for throwing a perfect spiral.

Also, I've seen people call these plays luck or say they are a fluke. How many of these plays do you need before they aren't luck anymore? Hell, they had two of these in a single game vs. Green Bay. I guess our guys are eating their Lucky Charms, huh? If I see Smitty at the 7-11 I'm gonna ask him to buy me some lottery tickets. He is one lucky motherf-cker.

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Who are these "Jake is Jesus" people you're referring to?
i think it's the people who actually don't hate him and think that he actually has a little talent and might be the best man for the job at the moment and who believe that we have a chance at a ring with him.

i could be wrong but i think those things and i have been lumped in with the jake jock sniffers because i don't have the same loathing that others do.

ftr...the jake haters are a bit sensitive...saying they are less so than the "jake is jesus" crowd is not very accurate. they are usually very easy to set on a tirade. they have big shiny buttons that are easy to push.

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Im not sold on Williams. Del Rio saw no need to keep him around last year and for good reason. There Defense was just as bad as ours last year. Given it is a upgrade for the saints but if Meeks can do with us what he did with the colts then we should be back to top 10 this year.
considering what they had previously it was a huge upgrade. i think we got the better f the two DCs by far but still what they did was enough to make them more of a threat.

last year wasn't the best year to gauge williams success in jaxville. they typically have had a very solid one.

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You say tomato I say tomatoe.

I think I tell it like it is as well and even have stats to back my opinion up.

Maybe you didn't intend it so I will gladly give you the benefit of the doubt.

Funny. I had stats to back up my opinion after you questioned my opinion of Jake a while back. Then you say I have no opinion cause I used stats. What the hell else am i supposed to use to back up my arguement? So stats can only be used by you and are the best because the stats you pick don't show the faults of Jake? Sounds hypocritical to me. That's all Im going to say about that.

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Funny, Colin Cowherd, ESPN Radio, In the Herd, was talking about Sanchez coming into the league this year to the Jets and spinning that he didn't have a good practice yesterday playing with the 2nd team and pointing out the QBs he would have to face this year. He listed Jake Delhomme as an above average QB. I've always listed Delhomme as an average QB, but it was interesting to hear what a talking head, who I respect and that is outside the organization thinks about our QB. He does his research, he doesn't just regurgitate what's out there by others...

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Funny, Colin Cowherd, ESPN Radio, In the Herd, was talking about Sanchez coming into the league this year to the Jets and spinning that he didn't have a good practice yesterday playing with the 2nd team and pointing out the QBs he would have to face this year. He listed Jake Delhomme as an above average QB. I've always listed Delhomme as an average QB, but it was interesting to hear what a talking head, who I respect and that is outside the organization thinks about our QB. He does his research, he doesn't just regurgitate what's out there by others...

i think the jets would be best to sit sanchez this year..let the other guy play behind a good run game and good def..then trade him..lol

but who was the guy on here that wanted us to make a move for brett ratlif..

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Funny. I had stats to back up my opinion after you questioned my opinion of Jake a while back. Then you say I have no opinion cause I used stats. What the hell else am i supposed to use to back up my arguement? So stats can only be used by you and are the best because the stats you pick don't show the faults of Jake? Sounds hypocritical to me. That's all Im going to say about that.

No actually you need to say more. I find it hard to believe that I of all people would tell you that stats are bad. I may argue the stats you use or tell you that quality stats are better than quantity ones. I may even say that stats need to used in context. But please PM me with the link you describe. I don't want to get into a public ying yang over what appears to be a personal disagreement. But if you look at my sig you would easily see that I like stats and fell they are necessary to back up an opinion.

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i think the jets would be best to sit sanchez this year..let the other guy play behind a good run game and good def..then trade him..lol

but who was the guy on here that wanted us to make a move for brett ratlif..

I agree and Colin did as well. Clemens was doing a fine job with the 1st unit. It's gonna take a little time for a player who left after one year playing and lost to the only teams he faced with good defenses with all that talent around him. He may make a quality QB in the NFL, but it's not gonna happen overnight...

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