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#145 Dilated_chakra

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:32 PM

I don't know what kind of Leader he is.....but Smitty does and that's why he chewed him out. I trust Smitty over Cam.


So what did smitty say? Pure speculation.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:40 PM

LOL at a franchise QB needing competition. If winning is not enough to push him then he will be out of the league in a few years, but Cam does not need competition. You give him 4 years minimum then determine if you need to go another direction at that time or bring someone else in.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:15 PM

LOL at a franchise QB needing competition. If winning is not enough to push him then he will be out of the league in a few years, but Cam does not need competition. You give him 4 years minimum then determine if you need to go another direction at that time or bring someone else in.


I'm in no way advocating Clausen here. I don't think he's the guy. But he didn't get that benefit that you're speaking about. So why does Cam and not him?

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:22 PM

I'm in no way advocating Clausen here. I don't think he's the guy. But he didn't get that benefit that you're speaking about. So why does Cam and not him?


Cam was drafted as the #1 pick because he has the tools to be the franchise QB with a high ceiling... Jimmy was a 2nd round pick and a project/potential franchise Qb.... Jimmy does not get the same benefit because he does not have the same upside... when you are the #1 pick at QB you are the day 1 franchise QB period... for better or worst.

Just my opinion.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:27 PM

Cam was drafted as the #1 pick because he has the tools to be the franchise QB with a high ceiling... Jimmy was a 2nd round pick and a project/potential franchise Qb.... Jimmy does not get the same benefit because he does not have the same upside... when you are the #1 pick at QB you are the day 1 franchise QB period... for better or worst.

Just my opinion.


And he has been....and he's getting two years to be the unquestioned guy. But let's say the Panthers don't win another game.....or finish 3-13.....you don't seriously think about bringing in a guy to compete? Not replace...not cut CN.......compete with him at the very least?

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:34 PM

I haven't read a single post in this thread, but I will say this.


I don't think Cam needs "competition". He needs a coach that is going to challenge him every single day. A coach that is going to tell him "this is your goal for today's practice. Improve on this. If you fail, you do extra conditioning" or something along those lines. He fails to reach too many goals, then you start giving a few extra snaps to the backup. Cam is never going to lose the job unless he just implodes. He's not playing that bad this season. Last week, he did a LOT better about not sitting in the pocket all day. He reverted back to last season: 3-4 seconds, nobody there, get what I can with my legs. Pocket collapsing? Try to escape and just run. That being said, there were a couple of times where he had NO time for the play to develop. That isn't on him.

Cam is fine. He has some things he can iron out, like any young QB. He still has bad tendencies, like not setting his feet when he does indeed have time. Or not looking off defenders. But those issues are minor compared to the OL issues and the playcalling.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:35 PM

And he has been....and he's getting two years to be the unquestioned guy. But let's say the Panthers don't win another game.....or finish 3-13.....you don't seriously think about bringing in a guy to compete? Not replace...not cut CN.......compete with him at the very least?


In my opinion no... You do the Same as the Rams are doing with Bradford... you give him more time and focus on improving the other positions on the team.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:36 PM

In my opinion no... You do the Same as the Rams are doing with Bradford... you give him more time and focus on improving the other positions on the team.


Bradford went to the Playoffs though.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:52 PM

Bradford went to the Playoffs though.


Bradford has not gone to the playoffs... Also after his rookie MVP year he followed it up going 1-9 the following year, yet they did not take a QB in the draft this year and are still working with him. You have to give your young QB time to develop before calling it quits or using your limited resources to bring in competition to add more question marks at the position.

I understand those wanting to have competition at the QB position because Cam may not be having the season we all expected, but I personally 100% disagree with the idea.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 03:06 PM

Bradford went to the Playoffs though.

bwah ha ha ha ha...

this thread doesn't fail to deliver the comedy.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 03:49 PM

bwah ha ha ha ha...

this thread doesn't fail to deliver the comedy.


Cam beat his team back in college. He has had trouble winning in the pros. It only makes sense to bring in "Competition". Doesn't it?

Plenty of young QBs don't go to the playoffs. How many of those teams redraft a QB to bring in competition?

A franchise QB does not guarantee playoffs. You still need a team around him. Wasting precious resources on "Competition" for your Franchise QB is counterproductive. Simple and Plain.

If and when your Franchise QB flames out. That is the only time you go back to the drawing board.

You use those resources to build your Franchise QB a competent team. Not for another QB because a few fans think he needs "Competition". That is just too silly to be this many pages.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 03:52 PM

Bradford went to the Playoffs though.


Nice try. It is one thing to cherry-pick stats to make a point. But making things up is just not going to get er done.

Give it up dude. Your "Competition" spiel is not going to fly.

Cam's numbers are comparable to last years. Even with the implosion of this O.

Ah hell, nvm. Carry on.