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#11 rayzor

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:18 AM

if he can improve his blocking, that'll be the biggest step up in my eyes.

that was one of the things i remember seeing him do in TC last year that i was impressed with...not that he was good at it but he was improving and evidence of it was seen in a couple pre-season games.

compared to the lazy one that he was in his first year it was a huge improvement.

he has a while before he can get anywhere as good as moose but he can do it and i think we have a year or so before we really need him to step up in that capacity. moose has at least one more year left in him...that gives jarrett plenty of time to learn the non-catching elements of his game. catching has never been his week spot, it was the blocking, route running, and studying needed to become a solid contributor. he's getting that down.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:35 AM

jarrett was great last year and caught everything that was near him.

his catch against the cardinals was one of the best catches ive seen a panther make.

all he needs are more opportunities, but it's possible 2008 was his "sit in the corner" year after he spent 2007 hitting the clubs.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:43 AM

Does anyone remember having a discussion about how few catches a third receiver would get in our system when Ricky Proehl was here. Seems to me he was the primary target on third down due to his ability to find seams and get open as well as hold onto the ball.

If Jarrett wants to see a lot of balls then prove to jake he is money on third down and can get open and separate from the defender. If he does he will get his chances. If he proves he can be the man, Jake will get him the ball alot.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:01 AM

We'll have to see about Goodson, I have a hard time believing that Fox would change an offensive players position, tho Goodson may be a solid target out of the backfield on third downs. Jarrett's highlights seemed to all come on third down last year, so I see Jarrett on the field more in those situations than the rookie converted RB to WR Goodson, just doesnt seem to be Fox's style. Jarrett was automatically put to the fourth spot last year when we brought in Moose and DJ, but this year he is slotted to be the #3 off the bat, so he will get more opportunity this year, hopefully he can make the best of those opportunities.


I don't think he will be changing much, because Goodson already has experience working out of the slot in college. Goings did it here too.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:12 AM

Jarrett won't take the #2 spot unless Moose gets injured. I don't think Moose has gotten enough credit for how much he helped the running game. Hopefully some of that physicality has rubbed off on Jarrett and he understands his job is a lot more than catching passes.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:33 AM

I don't think he will be changing much, because Goodson already has experience working out of the slot in college. Goings did it here too.


Eh, Goings rarely did it, but not the past 2 years, and I hope he will be more productive than him. Unless Goodson is really good, it will be hard for him to see much pt as a rook.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:16 PM

jarrett was great last year and caught everything that was near him.

his catch against the cardinals was one of the best catches ive seen a panther make.

all he needs are more opportunities, but it's possible 2008 was his "sit in the corner" year after he spent 2007 hitting the clubs.

the guy does catch most everything near him. there were a couple ill-timed drops and misses and if you look at the targets (22) vs. catches (12) he was a bit over 50%

here's the thing, though, he only had one drop. some of the catches that he made were incredible and they very much reminded me of key at his prime. very tough catches made that had him getting hit hard either as he was making the grab or right after the grab and he hung on to that ball.

of those 12 catches that he made over the season (regular and post) 10 were first downs. he only had 4 red zone targets last year and only 2 of them were inside the 10 and none of those were capitalized on. the fact that so many of his catches were first downs lets me believe that he can make those tough catches in tough situation and put in more red zone and scoring opportunities he would be more than able to make those grabs. at 6'4 or 6'5 he's got a big enough body to be a huge threat.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:21 PM

I think Jarrett will me big for us next year. You could see a big change from year 1 to year 2....and he made some nice catches in limited action. I think Moose was a big help and will continue to be one....Smitty is a beast but wasn't the mentor type that a WR like Jarrett needs.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:25 PM

I think Jarrett progressed last year but Spiting time with Hackett hurt him. Also what hurts him is he dose not play ST and Hackett did. This year he will not be splitting and if he dose not come threw he is def another USC bust.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:38 PM

Does anyone remember having a discussion about how few catches a third receiver would get in our system when Ricky Proehl was here. Seems to me he was the primary target on third down due to his ability to find seams and get open as well as hold onto the ball.

If Jarrett wants to see a lot of balls then prove to jake he is money on third down and can get open and separate from the defender. If he does he will get his chances. If he proves he can be the man, Jake will get him the ball alot.

for the record in 2003
smith 88 recps/ 1,110 yards/ 7 TDs
moose 54/837/3
proehl 27/389/4

TEs didn't factor too much into it, they had combined 30 catches/ 314 yards/ 1 TD

between davis/foster/goings/hoover there were 64 catches/ 535 yards / 4 TDs

i thihnk our RBs are going to have to get more to that range as far as TDs are concerned and with goodson it can be like that.

proehl's and moose's numbers i was kind of surprised at. i haven't seen the targets or situational numbers for 2003 in a while but in '04 proehl was targeted 70 times and got 34 recps. i'd imagine that '03 wasn't too off from that.