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#136 Mr. Scot

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:50 AM

Sounds familiar.

Most of us (myself included) made excuses for why Rivera interviewed 5 times without being hired. Turns out he probably just gave them the "Rivera face" for the whole interview.


That's actually one of the things I noted when I did the profile on Ross.

I've warmed up to the idea of Dave Gettleman. The more I read, the more there is to like.

Yes, he's older, but I think he's got the kind of championship experience and pedigree we're missing in the front office right now. And he could easily groom a successor (conceivably Abrams or Ross, though I admit that's a huge stretch).

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:40 AM

That's actually one of the things I noted when I did the profile on Ross.

I've warmed up to the idea of Dave Gettleman. The more I read, the more there is to like.

Yes, he's older, but I think he's got the kind of championship experience and pedigree we're missing in the front office right now. And he could easily groom a successor (conceivably Abrams or Ross, though I admit that's a huge stretch).


I understand were you are coming from on this. But Gettleman is pretty up their in age. I rather have a young guy who is ready to take over a team and build it like they are suppose to be built. I don't want any short term guys. This will be a wait and see process. We already know who he is going to pretty much bring in to look at for the job from the Giants but what about the other teams? I think Omar Khan has a good shot as well.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

it's not taken care of.

the team hired a consultant to help with the hire. that's as far as it's gotten and probably about as far as it's going to get until the season ends.


Did I miss something? Thought we just got the guy, that will find our new GM.


Rivera, I do not want. He needs to go. If you are going to bring in a new GM then you need to bring in a new coaching staff. If not this will be 2010 all over again.


Well, that didn't go over very well did it? I was trying to make light of the fact everyone, well almost everyone, was goo goo over Ross, Abrams, or some other Giant FO type. Tough crowd.

Not sure how everyone just knows Rivera will be gone when we sign our new GM. That is not a given. Or it doesn't appear to be a given to me. You guys are not in the loop, so it is all speculation. It is easier to ride the wave than it is to change the wave. If we keep improving, Rivera is not a lock to be gone. He may have to replace Chud if he doesn't get his act together. But it is no sure thing Rivera is gone.

This place is nuts when we are losing. Should have just stayed in the background.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:48 PM

Well, that didn't go over very well did it? I was trying to make light of the fact everyone, well almost everyone, was goo goo over Ross, Abrams, or some other Giant FO type. Tough crowd.

Not sure how everyone just knows Rivera will be gone when we sign our new GM. That is not a given. Or it doesn't appear to be a given to me. You guys are not in the loop, so it is all speculation. It is easier to ride the wave than it is to change the wave. If we keep improving, Rivera is not a lock to be gone. He may have to replace Chud if he doesn't get his act together. But it is no sure thing Rivera is gone.

This place is nuts when we are losing. Should have just stayed in the background.



You're right, it's not a lock that Rivera will be gone. But let me ask you one question, what has Rivera done that makes you think he should keep his job. Because I know for a fact that this team hasn't improved because we are 2-7. We are going to have a new GM and more then likely he will want his own guy. It just doesn't make sense to keep him around.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:01 AM

Mark Ross.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:03 AM

It is easier to ride the wave than it is to change the wave.


Just because it's easier doesn't make it better. Our current wave looks like it's about to smash us headfirst into a seawall.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:04 AM

You're right, it's not a lock that Rivera will be gone. But let me ask you one question, what has Rivera done that makes you think he should keep his job. Because I know for a fact that this team hasn't improved because we are 2-7. We are going to have a new GM and more then likely he will want his own guy. It just doesn't make sense to keep him around.


IMO, the only person that needs to go is Chud.

Defense is vastly improved. ST is better. We are making fewer mistakes. We are playing with fire and intensity. We are getting there, albeit rather slowly. But considering what he had to start with, I think Rivera is doing well.

If Chud gets his head outta his azz, we can be good. That should be enough to keep Rivera around to see if he can finish the job he started.

I ain't exactly thrilled with Rivera at the moment. I just feel he has earned the right to finish what he started. If he can get Chud to call a real offense that is.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:09 AM

Just because it's easier doesn't make it better. Our current wave looks like it's about to smash us headfirst into a seawall.


We set ourselves up for this. The expectations were through the roof. Unfortunately, Chud killed them. I am a firm believer in this team. IF, Chud gets his head together. Otherwise, everyone could be gone.

I just happen to believe this team is getting better. With a proper offense we can be good, maybe even pretty good. So I think Rivera has earned the right to finish what he has started.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:21 AM

We set ourselves up for this. The expectations were through the roof. Unfortunately, Chud killed them. I am a firm believer in this team. IF, Chud gets his head together. Otherwise, everyone could be gone.

I just happen to believe this team is getting better. With a proper offense we can be good, maybe even pretty good. So I think Rivera has earned the right to finish what he has started.



Expectations is what makes a team. So as fans are we suppose to just believe that we are not going to be good and finish the season 3-13 or something like that. No, it doesn't work like that. Coaches are expected to coach and groom players. Our team is worst then last year and I can understand not being good last year due to circumstances. Their is no excuses.

Also Rivera is the head coach right? That means he should tell Chud when things aren't working. Not just let them happen. That falls on his shoulder also. I'm not going to take anything away from the D because they have played good.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:35 AM

IMO, the only person that needs to go is Chud.

Defense is vastly improved. ST is better. We are making fewer mistakes. We are playing with fire and intensity. We are getting there, albeit rather slowly. But considering what he had to start with, I think Rivera is doing well.

If Chud gets his head outta his azz, we can be good. That should be enough to keep Rivera around to see if he can finish the job he started.

I ain't exactly thrilled with Rivera at the moment. I just feel he has earned the right to finish what he started. If he can get Chud to call a real offense that is.


He's the head coach, he has the power to fire him right this second if he wanted to, and the fact he hasn't already and has LET him ruin cam's progression as well as running a base college IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
coupled with playing scared at times (see: SQUIBBING TO DEVIN HESTER(who hasn't returned a TD all season) THE WHOLE F*CKING GAME) isn't a cause for concern for you?? Oh and don't forget that Richardson already had reservations about him before hiring him and this was hurney's hire, and the defense's improvement can easily be sustained and built upon with another competent defensive coaching staff with the talent we have... Plus too many other things to explain right now cuz I'm about to go smoke a joint but yeah he sucks.. aaaand #endrant

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:54 PM

Fans of Jimmy Raye, you may wanna prep for disappointment.

Gantt is reporting that the Chargers will fire both head coach Norv Turner and GM A.J. Smith at season's end.

Speculation is that Raye is expected to get the Chargers GM job after Smith is sent packing.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 01:23 PM

thought i would throw this nugget in here

*We’re hearing three names being pushed by Ernie Accorsi in Carolina are Ravens director of pro scouting George Kokinis, Giants director of college scouting Marc Ross and Giants senior pro personnel analyst Dave Gettleman. Accorsi worked with all three men previously and knows them well. Kokinis hasn’t been mentioned for many jobs lately, but is a highly qualified candidate. He comes from the respected Ozzie Newsome tree, and he has experience as a general manager.


http://www.nationalf...-Buzz-6686.html

#148 Mr. Scot

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:47 PM

Gettleman or Ross I could get behind. Kokinis? Oy :(

He was terrible with the Browns (though in fairness, the organization in general is a train wreck). Wound up being escorted out of the building.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:57 PM

I prefer Ross right now but I could live with Gettleman... now that guy from the Ravens.... haaaeeeellll naw

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:14 PM

I prefer Ross right now but I could live with Gettleman... now that guy from the Ravens.... haaaeeeellll naw


I assume you mean Kokinis, not DeCosta.


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