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#13 davos

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:28 AM

Beyond the Super Bowls, I just like the way the Giants have been built the past 4/5 seasons. That's why Abrams and Ross seem like very intriguing options.

I also like Will Lewis and who he's brought in out in Seattle.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:29 AM

Joe Person for GM

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:35 AM

our next GM will be GM/HC

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:36 AM

The Panthers may not have a choice but to wait until the season is over if they want someone already employed by another organization. Not unlike coaches, the team has to allow permission to even speak to the guy.

Of course, most personnel people (GMs, player personnel staff) are pretty much not doing anything right now except holding their breath to see if their draft choices and FA signings pan out, thereby ensuring their job security for another year.

That being said, I'm afraid anytime I see someone from Cleveland on the list, only because I don't see anyone from Pittsburgh on the same list- you know, that other team Jerry wants the Panthers to grow up and be like....


Omar Khan is up there, though how possible it is to get him is a question.

Add in that there's more than one guy on there with Steeler experiense - Doug Whaley, for example - or experience with another winning program who's in a different zip code now. Browns GM Tom Heckert is among that group, having been with the Eagles for several years before coming to Cleveland.

A lot to flesh out, honestly. I can tell already that putting these together with something meaningful will be more difficult than the coaching ones were. Still, it's something I enjoy, or I wouldn't do it :)

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:41 AM

Here's another name to add to this list: Brian Xanders

http://blogs.denverp...rce=rsshomeblog


I remember the name. Some felt Elway scapegoated him when he was let go.

He's one of a few guys that could actually be interviewed now if desired, although there's no real reason for the team to move quickly.

I'll add him in.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:52 AM

No more guys from SD. Please..

I'd prefer anyone from a winning organization, especially in the last 5 years.


Understand the sentiment, but afraid Charger guys have to be considered legit candidates. For the record, we got Hurney from the Chargers too (he was there with Bobby Beathard).

I seriously do not want anyone associated with the Patriots. Nobody associated with that organization as an assistant coach or front office person has amounted to poo outside New England.

Besides, it's not like they've been knocking it out of the park in the draft recently. Seriously, go look at their last 5 or so drafts. Awful outside of a handful of players like Gronkowski, Hernandez.

Do. Not. Want.


They may indeed be living off their rep from the Pioli years (so is Pioli right now) but you gotta look at 'em. Like I said, I don't endorse every name listed here. For what it's worth, Floyd Reese is more a Titans guy than a Patriots guy.

By the way, take a moment and look up Nick Caserio's profile pic. Looks like Beaker with a dye job.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:54 AM

I want someone with the mindset of NY Giants and Pittsburgh Steelers.

As I have said many times, our team needs an identity, beyond losing. I love watching the teams above draft. One big ugly after another and their D Lines are terrors. These are the keys to consistency in my opinion. Look at how long Eli had to throw against us. Their D Line is in the QB's face constantly.

I hate the "ooooh" lets get another WR, "I want this guy, look how high he jumps", nuclear threads during the combine. I want to build from the lines out. I want holes so that any RB can run through them, I want time for any QB to pass, I want opposing QB's staring at the sky when they play us and I want opposing RB's to never get 100 yds.

The rest will take care of itself

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:25 AM

our next GM will be GM/HC


I'd have to look, but I'm pretty sure if we did that we'd be the only team in the NFL using that model right now.

Pretty much everyone else has abandoned that approach. And with good reason: it doesn't work.

May want to consider this. It's actually possible that Richardson could go back to be 'two-headed GM' approach he preferred before (one evaluator, one administrator) rather than keeping the power consolidated under one guy. That's something I plan to take a look at later.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure the 'full control' option is off the table, but we'll see.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:33 AM

Right now, the leader in the clubhouse is Brandon Beane.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:53 AM

Right now, the leader in the clubhouse is Brandon Beane.


Haven't been able to find much on him, but from what I've seen, he's a logistics guy, not a football guy.

Reed says he's the interim GM. Gantt says there is no interim GM. As a general rule, I trust Gantt more than Reed, but we'll see.

If you want to look at internal candidates, Rob Rogers and Mark Koncz are more directly in line. I'm seriously hoping we don't go that route though. There is no one within the organization right now that I think can be the GM we need.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:55 AM

Haven't been able to find much on him, but from what I've seen, he's a logistics guy, not a football guy.

Reed says he's the interim GM. Gantt says there is no interim GM. As a general rule, I trust Gantt more than Reed, but we'll see.

If you want to look at internal candidates, Rob Rogers and Mark Koncz are more directly in line. I'm seriously hoping we don't go that route though. There is no one within the organization right now that I think can be the GM we need.


He's related to Billy Beane FWIW.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:56 AM

I'd have to look, but I'm pretty sure if we did that we'd be the only team in the NFL using that model right now.

Pretty much everyone else has abandoned that approach. And with good reason: it doesn't work.

May want to consider this. It's actually possible that Richardson could go back to be 'two-headed GM' approach he preferred before (one evaluator, one administrator) rather than keeping the power consolidated under one guy. That's something I plan to take a look at later.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure the 'full control' option is off the table, but we'll see.


Bill Belichick is the only one...Obviously he has people under him doing the scouting and most likely a finance guy to help with contract negotiations.

I know people are getting tired of the name, but the only candidate I can think of that would fill the GM/HC role would be Bill Cowher. On his list of demands a few years ago was 1.)GM must be fired and he have full control and 2.)8 mil per year...