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Why does Rivera say we do not have the personal to run his scheme?

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Highland is a bammer fan I think.

Its the only explanation for this unending hate.

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Bottom line is that instead of running an offense that fits the personel, we're running an offense forced upon the personel that overly caters to our young QB. Its ruining Cam and if Chud does not start making more pro-style smash mouth gameplans, I'm afraid Cam could be damaged immensely by the year's end.

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I agree about the impacts on Newton.

...but, I don't think its true its a tailored offense for Newton. This isn't about Newton. It is about not having the overall offensive blend to make the vertical scheme work at the moment. We do not have the personnel yet. We have run personnel with a scheme for vertical and that's why this is such a bloody mess.

Newton can throw vertically, he throws a beautiful long ball when he has time. He does need to learn to step into the pocket, he does need to learn the normal things a QB needs to learn in game 22 with a year of tape on him.

It is also about throwing away something as a base offense that should be an option.

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No, not true. This isn't about Newton. It is about not having the overall offensive blend to make the vertical scheme work at the moment. We do not have the personnel yet. We have run personnel with a scheme for vertical and that's why this is such a bloody mess.

Newton can throw vertically, he throws a beautiful long ball when he has time. He does need to learn to step into the pocket, he does need to learn the normal things a QB needs to learn in game 22 with a year of tape on him.

That's not what I meant. Our playbook is overly catered to his abilities

I don't want the personel for the scheme they're trying to run and I don't think anyone should. The scheme is nuts and doesn't work in the NFL. Last year's did...somewhat.

They should have developed an offensive plan that maximizes the team's abilities and strengths not around 1 guy through gimmick looks and his former college style offense.

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carolina doesn't have any downfield recieving threats for a vertical scheme.

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That's not what I meant. Our playbook is overly catered to his abilities.

I don't want the personel for the scheme they're trying to run and I don't think anyone should. The scheme is nuts and doesn't work in the NFL. Last year's did.

They should have developed an offensive plan that maximizes the team's abilities and strengths not around 1 guy through gimmick looks and his former college style offense.

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Whatever his scheme is

It's a fail

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To my knowledge, I don't think a read option has ever been a base package for a team in the modern era and our staff is refusing to back off of it. They are doubling down it seems. I don't even think it should be a special type package. They can run out of the shotgun the bulk of the game if they want, that's great if it works, but enough with a poor man's Oregon in the NFC South.

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Al y'all have failed miserably in this thread!!!!

His schem is a 3-4 DEFENSE... Nothing t do with offense

He has more talent on offense than he has ever had on any other team that he has ever coached.

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he took a more active role in the offense last year than this year and the offense looks really different. there's only one thing missing from last year...shockey. on offense, shockey or another big strong and reliable TE is needed to run the 2TE system we ran last year. that doesn't account for chud limiting the offense to the read option stuff and doesn't make him shut down the run game, but if they are wanting to run the offense they ran last year, they don't have the personnel for it.

on defense...i don't know. he had an average group of guys in SD and got them to be the best defense in the league. maybe the problem is his DC calling and planning things differently than he would which is why it might be best for mcD to get the axe. but players...he's lacking in the secondary, esp. at safety (although godfrey did pretty well this past week) and i doubt that Dline is as stout as he would like.

maybe it's the lack of experience and maturity that he's lacking in personnel. this is a young team that is quite often getting caught with it's pants down and a lot of it is just dumb mistakes that more mature and experienced players wouldn't have made.

i'm just curious to see what he does.

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Al y'all have failed miserably in this thread!!!!

His schem is a 3-4 DEFENSE... Nothing t do with offense

He has more talent on offense than he has ever had on any other team that he has ever coached.

just like his defense in chicago, right?

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just like his defense in chicago, right?

No but look at the personnel he had in Chicago compared to what he has here on defense?

Big difference right? I rest my case, he was referring to defense... He's a defensive coach.

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