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Why does Rivera say we do not have the personal to run his scheme?

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No but look at the personnel he had in Chicago compared to what he has here on defense?

Big difference right? I rest my case, he was referring to defense... He's a defensive coach.

But a HC right now and that involves both sides of the ball and controlling the crack addict we have at OC

The defense is actually doing fine right now for the most part. The d-line is still madly inconsistent but our rookies have looked like strong additions and hopefully they can further develop in this downward spiral of a season as a bright spot.

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But a HC right now and that involves both sides of the ball and controlling the crack addict we have at OC

The defense is actually doing fine right now for the most part. The d-line is still madly inconsistent but our rookies have looked like strong additions and hopefully they can further develop in this downward spiral of a season as a bright spot.

Ok, I'll play your silly games...

Explain to me exactly the "personnel" issues that we have on offense, that doesn't allow him to run his scheme...

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he took a more active role in the offense last year than this year and the offense looks really different. there's only one thing missing from last year...shockey. on offense, shockey or another big strong and reliable TE is needed to run the 2TE system we ran last year. that doesn't account for chud limiting the offense to the read option stuff and doesn't make him shut down the run game, but if they are wanting to run the offense they ran last year, they don't have the personnel for it.

on defense...i don't know. he had an average group of guys in SD and got them to be the best defense in the league. maybe the problem is his DC calling and planning things differently than he would which is why it might be best for mcD to get the axe. but players...he's lacking in the secondary, esp. at safety (although godfrey did pretty well this past week) and i doubt that Dline is as stout as he would like.

maybe it's the lack of experience and maturity that he's lacking in personnel. this is a young team that is quite often getting caught with it's pants down and a lot of it is just dumb mistakes that more mature and experienced players wouldn't have made.

i'm just curious to see what he does.

Yeah... Shockey is gone... But we still have Hartsock, and Barnidge... Hartsock is an even better blocker than Shockey was

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Ok, I'll play your silly games...

Explain to me exactly the "personnel" issues that we have on offense, that doesn't allow him to run his scheme...

We have a group put together for a Fox style run offense that he & Chud are trying to implement an option read AS A BASE PACKAGE with that limits our stacked running back core, allows defensive lines to kill us, and furthermore has driven ourselves into a corner as an offense. Its not a game and a pretty obvious observation.

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We have a group put together for a Fox style run offense that he is trying to implement an option read AS A BASE PACKAGE with that limits our stacked running back core, allows defensive lines to kill us, and furthermore has driven ourselves into a corner as an offense. Its not a game and a pretty obvious observation.

Where did you just explain the personnel issues that won't allow him to run his scheme?

Yes we have been running a read option as our base. No it obviously hasn't worked. Is that his doing? We won't now til Sunday. If we continue to see it, then yes it's he and Chuds idea. If it goes bye bye then we can assume it was Marty's idea.

I think the biggest problem for the Bears come Sunday is that we're gonna throw a whole new look at them... No film to prepare for it.

That in my mind gives us an edge

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I'm not too concerned with whatever Rivera's offensive scheme is as he shouldn't have one.

No offensive scheme works with a weak offensive line.

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Where did you just explain the personnel issues that won't allow him to run his scheme?

Yes we have been running a read option as our base. No it obviously hasn't worked. Is that his doing? We won't now til Sunday. If we continue to see it, then yes it's he and Chuds idea. If it goes bye bye then we can assume it was Marty's idea.

I think the biggest problem for the Bears come Sunday is that we're gonna throw a whole new look at them... No film to prepare for it.

That in my mind gives us an edge

In the first sentence

We have an offense built for a power running Coryell-style Offense with DeAngelo, J-Stew, Olsen, and an offensive line that works well in a zone blocking scheme.

And if the read option is scrapped this coming game, our coaches are using the firing of Hurney as an excuse to change their game planning. Hurney accumulated the talent, he did not implement the scheme. He's wasn't a coach and to think a GM is in charge of developing a playbook is short-sighted

I'll finish by agreeing with you. The Chicago game presents us the opportunity to come out with a new look. (Which we claimed we would do against the Cowgirls)

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Yeah... Shockey is gone... But we still have Hartsock, and Barnidge... Hartsock is an even better blocker than Shockey was

hartsock can block, but isn't a recieving threat.

barnidge can catch, but can't block.

shockey can do both.

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In the first sentence

We have an offense built for a power running Coryell-style Offense with DeAngelo, J-Stew, Olsen, and an offensive line that works well in a zone blocking scheme.

And if the read option is scrapped this coming game, our coaches are using the firing of Hurney as an excuse to change their game planning. Hurney accumulated the talent, he did not implement the scheme. He's wasn't a coach and to think a GM is in charge of developing a playbook is short-sighted

I'll finish by agreeing with you. The Chicago game presents us the opportunity to come out with a new look. (Which we claimed we would do against the Cowgirls)

Much better explanation that time. We won't know what the changes will be come Sunday, but RR guaranteed changes, but then again so did Obama. Last time I checked that didn't work out so well. Hopefully RR's changes will.

I would like to counter you with a little bit of speculation to see if you thought it was as weird as I did in RR's Presser yesterday.

Didn't you find it odd, that the first thing he did was put Gamble on IR? He seemed authoritative about it... Almost as if he had no voice in doing it the week prior. Also said the buck stopped with him. Again very authoritative in that remark. This is just an inference on my part, but I don't think that RR or his staff had much to say about anything. It also came out yesterday, that McDermott couldn't even tell us who or where he would start at certain positions because "it wasn't his call to make" how does the DC not have that call? Was he implying that RR makes that call? Perhaps... But I choose to think that Marty made al, of the calls, and that's why RR's contract is chump change compared to most HC's around the League.

Make no mistake about it... We are going to find out just how good or bad RR is at being a HC in the coming weeks... He now has full control over this team, he made that very obvious in his presser. Now we're gonna find out what he can do with what we have.

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hartsock can block, but isn't a recieving threat.

barnidge can catch, but can't block.

shockey can do both.

Stereotypically true on Hartsock... But I do remember him laying out for a ball and making a spectacular catch earlier in the season. I do agree with you mostly though. Also neither of them have that "edge" or swag that Shockey had.

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hartsock can block, but isn't a recieving threat.

barnidge can catch, but can't block.

shockey can do both.

if we can just create a machine to combine the 2 we may get somewhere

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Much better explanation that time. We won't know what the changes will be come Sunday, but RR guaranteed changes, but then again so did Obama. Last time I checked that didn't work out so well. Hopefully RR's changes will.

I would like to counter you with a little bit of speculation to see if you thought it was as weird as I did in RR's Presser yesterday.

Didn't you find it odd, that the first thing he did was put Gamble on IR? He seemed authoritative about it... Almost as if he had no voice in doing it the week prior. Also said the buck stopped with him. Again very authoritative in that remark. This is just an inference on my part, but I don't think that RR or his staff had much to say about anything. It also came out yesterday, that McDermott couldn't even tell us who or where he would start at certain positions because "it wasn't his call to make" how does the DC not have that call? Was he implying that RR makes that call? Perhaps... But I choose to think that Marty made al, of the calls, and that's why RR's contract is chump change compared to most HC's around the League.

Make no mistake about it... We are going to find out just how good or bad RR is at being a HC in the coming weeks... He now has full control over this team, he made that very obvious in his presser. Now we're gonna find out what he can do with what we have.

I guess your right in the fact we'll find out this coming Sunday but I'm not expecting to see that big of a change. I really dunno but its never looked like anyone has been in control of our direction. Kinda how Stephen A. Smith put it yesterday.

This team is leaderless and lost wandering in the woods right now. That is the worst type of situation to have when you have a vulnerable young QB (both mentally and in-game), above average veterans who have not experienced success in years, and a coach who is just meh. Given the players we have, regardless of who's making the shots, they are lost on how to utilize our talent.

I just think Rivera is gone at the end of the season and we're giving him the opportunity to save face. We'll see what happens.

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