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For once I don't disagree with Warren Moon. Good read

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This article is pretty dead on
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I won't read anything else pertaining to Warren Moon. I think he's one of the most racist pro athletes of all time. He never comments on white QB's... Only black one... And he's always pulling the race card. No respect for people living in the past

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Warren Moon is correct.

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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1351012624' post='1959452']
I won't read anything else pertaining to Warren Moon. I think he's one of the most racist pro athletes of all time. He never comments on white QB's... Only black one... And he's always pulling the race card. No respect for people living in the past
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Maybe if you would read it you would see he comments on numerous white QB's in both good and bad ways.

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Maybe if you would read it you would see he comments on numerous white QB's in both good and bad ways.
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Based off of your recommendation ill read it then... I usually dislike Moon though

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For whatever you think of Newton (and I'd agree there are things he needs to work on) the notion that he got Marty Hurney fired is one I find utterly silly.

Marty Hurney got Marty Hurney fired, and that process started long before Newton ever got here.
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[quote="Warren fuging Moon, Hall of Fame Quarterback"]
"I think a lot of this is because so many people want to say 'I told you so' about him, but couldn't because he was so good last year," Moon said. "I think people are overreacting. How can he be a bust? He just had one of the great years a rookie has ever had, and now he can't play? Come on."
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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1351012906' post='1959460']
For whatever you think of Newton (and I'd agree there are things he needs to work on) the notion that he got Marty Hurney fired is one I find utterly silly.

Marty Hurney got Marty Hurney fired, and that process started long before Newton ever got here.
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I'll go one step further. I think Cam's play last year actually bought Hurney another year.

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Word for word. Great stuff.
He should be Cams "MindCoach"
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[quote name='SCP' timestamp='1351012744' post='1959455']
Warren Moon is correct.
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I agree, he summed it all up rather well.
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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1351012624' post='1959452']
I won't read anything else pertaining to Warren Moon. I think he's one of the most racist pro athletes of all time. He never comments on white QB's... Only black one... And he's always pulling the race card. No respect for people living in the past
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Spot on. This guy is about as racist as it comes. Anyone thinking Cams criticisms are Race motivated are racists themselves and flat out fuging morons.

It is pathetic in this day and time you cant call a moronic QB what he is without some clowns screaming race. It doesn't matter he is black, it matters he is an option QB without the mindset to be able to read NFL Defenses. It has NOTHING to do with race. There are many whites that were even worse than Cam is.
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didn't read the article but does Moon suggest that Cam got Marty fired?

Or is the same old race card crap from Moon?
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[quote name='MrTouchdown' timestamp='1351013408' post='1959479']
didn't read the article but does Moon suggest that Cam got Marty fired?

Or is the same old race card crap from Moon?
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Neither...it's worth reading IMO.
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part worth reading...
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"The big thing with him is he doesn't like losing," Moon said Monday. "He doesn't handle it very well. I don't see anything wrong with that; it's OK not to like losing. You just can't show it as the leader of the football team.

"You have to project optimism and calmness to the players around you. You can't be demoralized. He's not showing optimism. He's looking puzzled. He looks like a guy who doesn't have all the answers, and his teammates see that."

In fact Moon, who helped prepare Newton before the Panthers selected him with the first overall pick of the 2011 NFL draft, would like to see Newton emulate the young quarterback [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/warren-moon-mentorship-helps-russell-wilson-move-past-043101337--nfl.html"]he's currently mentoring[/url]: Seattle Seahawks rookie [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/search?p=Russell+Wilson"]Russell Wilson[/url].
"You wouldn't know if we won or lost when you listen to him talk after a game," Moon said of Wilson. "That's what you want.
Listen to Tom Brady or Peyton Manning after a game. They keep everything even-keeled. They never get too high or too low.

"Cam's an emotional player. He needs to learn to saddle that. If I was to talk to him – and I need to give him a call – I would tell him his demeanor's got to change in the face of adversity. It's more of a maturity thing; he's got to grow up in this area. He's got to get realistic that they're not a good football team right now and it's going to be tough to win as much as he thinks he should, until they get some more good players."
[/quote]i can't disagree with him.

he doesn't have to like it, but he does have to be more in control of how he externally deals with it, esp. realizing that this is becoming his team and regardless of whether he has a 'C' on his jersey or not...the other players are going to be looking at him to and following his lead.

newton has one of the most infectious personalities i've ever seen. whether he wants it or not, he effects people's emotional levels and has control over how people act/react. if people see him fired up...they are going to get fired up. if he's feeling like a conqueror, they are going to feel and act like it as well. if he feels defeated, tho, and lets mistakes bring him down, then he's going to bring others around him down as well.

he's got to become that guy he was at auburn that brought his team back from massive deficits against immense odds. he's got to be that guy in the lockerroom and on the sidelines that gets his teammates going.

that might be too much for him to handle right now, but until he can control what he does and can become that guy at auburn...we're going to be seeing pretty much the same results and i don't think it will really matter who is is that is coaching or calling the plays, either.

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[quote][color=#000000][font=Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]"The big thing with him is he doesn't like losing," Moon said Monday. "He doesn't handle it very well. I don't see anything wrong with that; it's OK not to like losing. You just can't show it as the leader of the football team.[/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]"You have to project optimism and calmness to the players around you. You can't be demoralized. He's not showing optimism. He's looking puzzled. He looks like a guy who doesn't have all the answers, and his teammates see that."[/font][/color][/quote]

Please tattoo this to the inside of Cam's eyelids.

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[quote name='MrTouchdown' timestamp='1351013408' post='1959479']
didn't read the article but does Moon suggest that Cam got Marty fired?

Or is the same old race card crap from Moon?
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Same race crap. Says Race is an issue right off the bat in the title.

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Neither...it's worth reading IMO.
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Neither? Do you have issues with reading comprehension?


[b] Hall of Famer says criticism of Cam Newton's demeanor is valid,[u][i][b] but believes race is a factor[/b][/i][/u][/b]

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[quote name='Highlandfire' timestamp='1351013595' post='1959491']

Neither? Do you have issues with reading comprehension?


[b] Hall of Famer says criticism of Cam Newton's demeanor is valid,[u][i][b] but believes race is a factor[/b][/i][/u][/b]
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Was not aware Moon had started formatting articles for Yahoo.
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[quote name='MrTouchdown' timestamp='1351013408' post='1959479']
didn't read the article but does Moon suggest that Cam got Marty fired?
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Others have floated that idea.

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Highland Im struggling to find a reason for you to be hear any longer.

You don't like Cam, for whatever reason. Get over it or get a new team. He isn't going anywhere.
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[quote name='london67' timestamp='1351012926' post='1959462']
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While true...last year we still only won 6 games with a rookie that set all time records.

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[quote name='MrTouchdown' timestamp='1351013408' post='1959479']
didn't read the article but does Moon suggest that Cam got Marty fired?

Or is the same old race card crap from Moon?
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No, in fact he emphatically denies that Cam had anything to do with Marty's loss of his job.

I read it... His opinions of the game are spot on...he said he's tired of defending Cam too, because he feels Cam doesn't need someone to defend him.

Did pull a race card... Which was accurate by comparing Cutler and Cam. Cutler cusses and bumps o-linemen and doesn't really care... Where Cam always cares but is just disappointed by what goes on around him...

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You could argue that the reason he's extended opportunity after opportunity is because of race. If he was a white guy everyone would be calling for his head. This race poo is stupid. Race has worked in his favor that's why he has so many stupid jocksniffs.

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I guess I've never read any of Warren Moon's other stuff, because I was totally unaware of the racial stuff. I went in fresh and found the article to reflect a very fair and unbiased opinion.

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"I don't know why they got away from what they were doing last year," Moon said, referring to Chudzinski and coach Ron Rivera. "They were running more of a pro-style offense, and now they're going more to the read-option, the stuff he did in college. I think some of it is coaching. I think some of it is they don't have enough good players yet. And there's no question he's not playing as well as last year.
"That offense doesn't allow you to be an NFL-type quarterback. It's a lot of tricks, sticking the ball into a running back's stomach, trying to freeze the defense. Even though he can do that and had success with it in college, I don't think it serves him well in the long run."
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Sounds like he doesn't like the read-option.
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Yep, dead on.

This situation isn't of Cam's doing... he hasn't played well, but the offensive slump is directly on the coaches imo.
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