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#31 Sloth

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 03:35 PM

Now insert Cam into a defense/power run focused team that had Smith and Muhammad in their primes.

We'd probably win a lot more games that way as well.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 03:41 PM

If Ron Rivera was half the coach that..

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 03:54 PM

The reason why were losing is because our personnel as a whole (coaching AND most players) are just not very good... Not because cam isn't a leader like delhomme, this is why hurney is gone and why we're trying to find someone qualified to right the ship.. Blaming cam is the easy thing to do.. But the real problem is we have no depth and lack talent in major areas... Cam is 23 and your treating him like a 10 year vet whos been giving too many chances (see: hurney) it's unfortunate that so many people are pointing our struggles SOLELY on him.. While he deserves some criticism, people should look at the team and coaching surrounding him first.. Before saying that HE is the reason were losing.. All we can hope is the new guy that comes in (hoping for Ross) can lead us in a new direction of sustained success led by cam! KTHXBAI

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:22 PM

Delhomme was, this team would be winning more game.

Curious how.many other can even admit this.


Was delhomme a better leader? yes, I agree
Would we be winning more games if Delhomme was under center in 2011 and 2012: I don't know about that

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:23 PM

If Cam Netwon didn't need his security blanket how many games do you think he'd win?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:26 PM

Cam is a natural leader by all accounts, but it takes some time to establish that as a 23 year old in a room full of grown men.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:26 PM

Cam is a natural leader by all accounts, but it takes some time to establish that as a 23 year old in a room full of grown men.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:36 PM

If Cam had half the team Jake got handed in 2003 we'd be a playoff team again.

Its unfair to expect Cam to have it all figured out and be on the level of Jake in his early 30's. I dont recall Jake starting in the NFL at age 23. Cam is so far ahead of him at this point its not even funny.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:47 PM

Delhomme was, this team would be winning more game.

Curious how.many other can even admit this.


If Delhomme had the work load Cam does......we wouldn't.

Give Cam the old school Panther front 4 and we would have won a ton of these close games....I'd say 70% of them (which most of Cam's 22 have been)

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:57 PM

I'm not saying I'd want delhomme back. That is idiotic.

Cam throwing the team under the bus to the media is something a child does.
Not a leader of men.

Cam is losing the.locker room. Not Rivera.


You should watch a Peyton Manning press conference after a blowout loss in the playoffs

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:58 PM

This reminds me of a discussion I saw on NFLN yesterday with Heath Evans and another ex-player. The question was his maturity level and both agreed he was immature.

So who did they use as examples for him to emmulate? Brees, Brady and Peyton.

Why do people expect him to be a finished product after a year-and-a-half in the league?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:00 PM

Because the NFL doesnt have a history of "nurturing" QBs like Cameron. Sad to say. When I called us pioneers last year, I wasnt just making that up. LOL.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:07 PM

This reminds me of a discussion I saw on NFLN yesterday with Heath Evans and another ex-player. The question was his maturity level and both agreed he was immature.

So who did they use as examples for him to emmulate? Brees, Brady and Peyton.

Why do people expect him to be a finished product after a year-and-a-half in the league?


lol...maturity is in the eye of the beholder...Cam goes off in the sideline like Brady does so often and it would NOT be viewed positively.

But it is still funny Cam gets compared to current day vet SB winners....and not vs what they were 22 games into their careers.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:12 PM

Yeah what ever happened to that fiery leader Jake Delhomme?... Oh yeah, he got ran the hell out of town.

Coincidentally a faction of imbeciles want to do the same to Cam after only a season and a half.

You morons deserve nothing more than decades of Jimmy Clausen clones.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:17 PM

I don't think Cam's leadership is our biggest issue, but I do agree with the sentiment.

Delhomme was a great leader.