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#25 KaseKlosed

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:36 PM

Many devoted Christians "purebyblood" wrestle with the edict that a person must “name the name” in order to achieve full resurrection, redemption, and eternal life.

: “He that would name the name must have become perfect in himself!” How many of Christians can say we have achieved this requirement?

Another reading says: “Magnify that name, that name, that becomes on every tongue that of the crucified one in the manner that self is crucified to the fleshly desires, preferring the spirit of the Holy One before self, and considering your neighbor as yourself.”

Using this reading’s definition of the name, couldn’t a person who has heard little of Jesus be “naming the name” if he or she has crucified fleshly desires, preferring God’s will over his own, and loving his fellow man as himself? Is the name a word or is it spirit? Is salvation the name “Jesus” or loving God and others as Jesus instructed? Is Christ only Christian or universal?

Is God and the manifestation of God among us limited to select souls? Does not God love and seek the companionship of all His/Her children?

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:38 PM

this is by FAR the worst argument against christianity i've ever read, in my life, hands down.

Then disprove my words instead of judging and running from it :smilielol5:

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:49 PM

Christians need to allow Jesus Christ to be bigger than Christianity. As Jesus said (or the Christ spirit with whom Jesus made himself one), “Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and they shall become one flock, one shepherd,” John 10:16. Jesus said that he taught and did what he was guided to do from God, the Father, within him. And before leaving us to become completely one with God, Jesus informed us that the “Comforter,” the “Spirit of Truth,” would come to us and guide us.

I dont expect an intelligent response, the knowledge im giving you is straight from the Bible, have you read it lately?

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:51 PM

[quote name='KaseKlosed']Jesus was a man like me and you![/QUOTE]

This is not an argument against christianity.

[quote name='KaseKlosed']God made us in his image, when you look into the mirror who do you see?
so who is God?[/QUOTE]

this isn't even an argument, this is a superficial argument that attempts to coyly play with words and leave a quandary... absolutely laughable argumentally. no self-respecting intellectual would touch this one with a ten-foot pole.

[quote name='KaseKlosed']Jesus was born into a Jewish Family, how and why did Christians hi-jack him?[/QUOTE]

how am i supposed to reply to these points when they don't even make sense? this is the most asinine question i've ever read. "hi-jack" him? what? huh?

[quote name='KaseKlosed']No Christian can prove Jesus rose on the third day nor prove his miracles[/QUOTE]

no, but much like any jury we can weigh the evidence at hand to determine whether or not these are liklihoods. and there are mountains of evidence.

[quote name='KaseKlosed']The Bible was written by men like you and me hence the top left hand corner of the first page
"BOOK OF TIMOTHY" TIM WAS A MAN![/QUOTE]

oh boy.. this is prolific. you're going to have to re-phrase the point so i can understand what you're getting at here.

[quote name='KaseKlosed']Those men were "inspired" by God do we need to redefine what the word "INSPIRATION" means??? lol and "IT" did not write it[/QUOTE]

again, what are you saying here?

[quote name='KaseKlosed']The Bible has over 150 contradictions[/QUOTE]

good, you should have no problem naming some

[quote name='KaseKlosed']The Bible is a spiritual guide, not a rule book, or the LAW[/QUOTE]

...aaaaaand?

[quote name='KaseKlosed']Most Christians have not even read the entire Bible, how sad[/QUOTE]

yes, how

[quote name='KaseKlosed']Most Christians do not know that the letter "J" does not exists in the Hebrew language[/QUOTE]

you should let dawkins know about this... maybe he could use it in his next book

[quote name='KaseKlosed']Who Said God was only a Christian? Is that in the Bible? nope[/QUOTE]

what?!?!?! you tell me to answer your questions instead of categorically denying all terms and defininitions, but this is what you're putting out there. how can i even accept the challenge when i can't understand what you're even trying to say?

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:54 PM

Christians need to allow Jesus Christ to be bigger than Christianity. As Jesus said (or the Christ spirit with whom Jesus made himself one), “Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and they shall become one flock, one shepherd,” John 10:16. Jesus said that he taught and did what he was guided to do from God, the Father, within him. And before leaving us to become completely one with God, Jesus informed us that the “Comforter,” the “Spirit of Truth,” would come to us and guide us.

I dont expect an intelligent response, the knowledge im giving you is straight from the Bible, have you read it lately?


what are we supposed to be responding to? if this is an argument, it's the most disjointed one i've ever seen... you're tossing out these supposed stumblingblocks for christianity, but they don't make any sense. i can't begin to discuss them because there is no rationality behind them. there's nowhere to begin because your point isn't clear.

articulate, PLEASE, and i will see what i can do to provide the viewpoint of the opposition.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:07 AM

Jesus was a man like me and you!
"Point here is that no one can prove Jesus is the only son of God, not even Christians,

God made us in his image, when you look into the mirror who do you see?
so who is God?
"This is a simple question, if we are in his image, what do you think you see in the mirror?"

Jesus was born into a Jewish Family, how and why did Christians hi-jack him?
Christians chose Jesus after he died, Jesus to "lead the marketing Efforts" to push their religion......I wouldnt choose GW Bush after he dies to represent the democrats.....was never a Christian!

No Christian can prove Jesus rose on the third day nor prove his miracles
What is your evidence that you speak of???? care to share...na i doubt it

The Bible was written by men like you and me hence the top left hand corner of the first page
"BOOK OF TIMOTHY" TIM WAS A MAN!
Once Again please disprove this!

Those men were "inspired" by God do we need to redefine what the word "INSPIRATION" means??? lol and "IT" did not write it
" what i mean is that at the end of the day Mankind wrote the Bible, not Jesus, not a mystery God...
The Bible has over 150 contradictions
This speaks for itself

The Bible is a spiritual guide, not a rule book, or the LAW


Most Christians have not even read the entire Bible, how sad

Most Christians do not know that the letter "J" does not exists in the Hebrew language

Who Said God was only a Christian? Is that in the Bible? nope
"God" existed before religion before the Bible, before Jesus, When Jesus said he was the Light, in those times it meant "enlightened" and not in the dark/unaware/ignorant to his consciousness

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:09 AM

what are we supposed to be responding to? if this is an argument, it's the most disjointed one i've ever seen... you're tossing out these supposed stumblingblocks for christianity, but they don't make any sense. i can't begin to discuss them because there is no rationality behind them. there's nowhere to begin because your point isn't clear.

articulate, PLEASE, and i will see what i can do to provide the viewpoint of the opposition.


man maybe you are just slow?!? LOL keep reading, its FUNdamental

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:13 AM

Jesus was a man like me and you!
"Point here is that no one can prove Jesus is the only son of God, not even Christians,

God made us in his image, when you look into the mirror who do you see?
so who is God?
"This is a simple question, if we are in his image, what do you think you see in the mirror?"

Jesus was born into a Jewish Family, how and why did Christians hi-jack him?
Christians chose Jesus after he died, Jesus to "lead the marketing Efforts" to push their religion......I wouldnt choose GW Bush after he dies to represent the democrats.....was never a Christian!

No Christian can prove Jesus rose on the third day nor prove his miracles
What is your evidence that you speak of???? care to share...na i doubt it

The Bible was written by men like you and me hence the top left hand corner of the first page
"BOOK OF TIMOTHY" TIM WAS A MAN!
Once Again please disprove this!

Those men were "inspired" by God do we need to redefine what the word "INSPIRATION" means??? lol and "IT" did not write it
" what i mean is that at the end of the day Mankind wrote the Bible, not Jesus, not a mystery God...
The Bible has over 150 contradictions
This speaks for itself

The Bible is a spiritual guide, not a rule book, or the LAW


Most Christians have not even read the entire Bible, how sad

Most Christians do not know that the letter "J" does not exists in the Hebrew language

Who Said God was only a Christian? Is that in the Bible? nope
"God" existed before religion before the Bible, before Jesus, When Jesus said he was the Light, in those times it meant "enlightened" and not in the dark/unaware/ignorant to his consciousness


try again when you can make your arguments make any semblance of intellectual sense at all.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:14 AM

man maybe you are just slow?!? LOL keep reading, its FUNdamental


yes, that's clearly the problem here.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:15 AM

still you come with nothing, but complaints, NEXT!!!!!

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:19 AM

still you come with nothing, but complaints, NEXT!!!!!


i will refrain from calling you a complete ignoramus long enough to inform you that even your own ideological bedfellows would reject the way you've presented your arguments. i can't respond to them because they are verbally murky and intellectually sterile. PLEASE REPHRASE YOUR ARGUMENTS WITH AN OUNCE OF CLARITY and i will answer them accordingly.

good day sir.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:40 AM

U should have know not to feed you the Meat before the Milk yet......I forgot I have to take it slow with some folks