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#41 Dpantherman

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:13 AM

What amazes me about this entire thing is how few people in the media actually listened to or watched the ENTIRE presser. Instead they followed the quotes of the day and broke it apart. Its ridiculous.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:16 AM

I find it funny that this fan base has evolved from "I'm tired of the same old emotionless, it is what it is" to bitching that people on the team actually speak their mind.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:20 AM

What amazes me about this entire thing is how few people in the media actually listened to or watched the ENTIRE presser. Instead they followed the quotes of the day and broke it apart. Its ridiculous.


Exactly... I just listened to a bunch of radio jocks in Northern VA/DC just say Cam never took responsibility for making any mistakes during the presser. I thought he started off with saying that very thing.

They even said he's jealous now because RGIII is getting so much attention, and that's why he's acting this way. I mean it's getting straight up ridiculous the way they go on this kid. If I were him, I wouldn't say another word in another press conference this year, except YES and NO.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:22 AM

I know it's not a popular opinion, but Cam is has some serious issues with maturity that I don't think time will fix. You can stop with the 23 stuff too---- this guy comes across like a 7 year old. I will say, if things are going well a guy like this can be fine, but when things don't go well--- and especially when they don't go HIS way--- that's when the troubles start. His physical gifts simply can't replace the required maturity and leadership skills needed to be a success in the NFL. Cam is about Cam--- his cringe-worthy touchdown celebrations, his sideline moping and his pressers are clear indicators that this guy is not the future of an NFL franchise. Luck and RGIII---good examples of guys who look like pros and sound like pros of the field-- win or loss.

Ok, let the flaming begin. I'm trying to get to 100 posts today anyway.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:29 AM

Of all the dysfunction right now with this team, you are upset because Cam stated the painfully obvious? There have been daily threads here pissing and moaning about the read option and it's ineffectiveness. Im glad he said it.

All and all I think as not only a young player but a person, Cam needs a better support staff.

Rivera isn't getting it done.


I get it Cam needs a better support staff and OC but that does not change my opinion about his demeanor in the interviews.Cam needs focus on being his best and helping the team win.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:30 AM

What most of the uber Cam supporters here are refusing to understand is that there are VERY FEW posters on here (and most are trolls) that are throwing Cam under the bus. We just can see that there are many things that Cam needs to work on and improve....maturity, demeanor, etc.

As oppposed to some of you who think that everything he does is perfect and that his poo does not stink.

I personally think Cam is an incredible talent....I think that he IS the QB that will lead us to success....I do think the sky is the limit with him....and I do think that our coaches can't get their heads out of their asses right now.

But, I am also able to admit that Cam has a lot of things that he needs to work on and improve.....his leadership, demeanor, maturity, etc right now leaves a bit to be desired. But, like many have said, he is only 23 yo. I hope tha the is not one of those many athletes who never get this.....and I think he will get it.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:35 AM

What most of the uber Cam supporters here are refusing to understand is that there are VERY FEW posters on here (and most are trolls) that are throwing Cam under the bus. We just can see that there are many things that Cam needs to work on and improve....maturity, demeanor, etc.

As oppposed to some of you who think that everything he does is perfect and that his poo does not stink.


Agreed......


And when does everyone think he will mature? Two years, three? It's ridiculous to think he will suddenly grow up and become a mature adult and leader of this team. To my earlier point, why aren't we having to wait for Luck and RGII to mature? Sorry folks, this isn't something that time is going to fix--- or some type of support system. Time to move on.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:37 AM

And by the way--- I think Cam could do fine on a solid team that was winning. The problem is that we are in for a rough ride with changes coming and likely more losses---- not the environment for success for a guy who needs to grow up and doesn't seem to be able to handle adversity.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:38 AM

Kerry Collins grew up

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:44 AM

Kerry Collins grew up


Yep, after about 8 years. You may have forgotten that he basically quit on the panthers and asked to be traded-- "his heart wasn't in it".

How long do you think we should give Cam?

Again, I think if the team is winning-- he is fine. So, it could be a real bumpy road ahead if things continue...... I hope I'm wrong about Cam and the bumpy road though.


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