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What could we realistically get for Williams?


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#25 crack0saur

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:14 PM

No one, in the end we will cut him or he will run his contract. If I was a gm in the NFL why would I trade for RB who is clearly on the way out the door? That's assuming your team even wants the cap number he holds. At this point in the season if I'm a GM looking for an RB as a stop gap to fill the hole this season why go after one of the highest paid RB's in the league? It's not like a team is going to build around DWill, hes 29 going on 30. Clearly you would go after the young fresh legs that you can get for like 575k or whatever the league minimum currently is. I love Dwill, fug i even have his jersey but like lets be serious, there's a salary cap in the NFL and these Madden trades don't happen. If by some miracle we get something for him it will be way less than invested; probably a blocking sled and some pylons.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:16 PM

I think we could get more for Beason than Williams.

Running backs are easy to get. I mean look at Alfred Morris, Andre Brown. I mean they are easier to find than good MLB. I'd settle for a 3rd round pick for Beason.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:43 PM

Again, the problem isn't what we could get for him, or Beason for that matter. Any team making a trade assumes his salary or a renegotiated salary. That isn't the hangup. The hangup is we may not be in a position to absorb the accelerated bonus that hits our books.

So say we trade DWill this year before the deadline. The new team takes his salary that averages $5.7 million a year over the next 3 years. This does not relieve us of our responsibility for the uncharged portion of the contract's original signing bonus ($9.6 million). That is what we're stuck with, and we'd have to take the whole hit this year.

It is better to wait till March when we can spread it out over 2 years. I do think both DWill and Beason should probably be cut or traded at that point. This team has to start getting out from under some of these ridiculous contracts, and we should do it as soon as possible.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:03 PM

Whether it be before this years trade deadline, or during the offseason, Williams will probably be traded. The question is what is he worth at this point in his career?

Denver or San Diego seem like no brainers as far as trade partners go.


Absolutely nothing. Nobody will want any part of that contract.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:06 PM

I think we could get more for Beason than Williams.

Running backs are easy to get. I mean look at Alfred Morris, Andre Brown. I mean they are easier to find than good MLB. I'd settle for a 3rd round pick for Beason.



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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:59 PM

What could the Panthers get in return for getting rid of Deangelo Williams? Lots of cap space, a roster spot. The upside is huge.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:07 AM

Baconator sounds delicious.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:09 AM

I thought that nothing was guaranteed to D-Will after this year. Is the signing bonus the only thing we would be on the hook for? The Cards, Packers and/or Cinci might make sense also.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:12 AM

I thought that nothing was guaranteed to D-Will after this year. Is the signing bonus the only thing we would be on the hook for?


Yeah, but that's $9.6 million.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:12 AM

Signing bonuses are prorated through out the life of a contract, so he no longer has a guaranteed contract, we still feel the cap hit from the bonus

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:23 AM

Even with the terrible contracts many players are much more tradeable than people would believe. The huge signing bonus is already paid and the Panthers would have to deal with the cap hit regardless if that player is still with the team or not. This means, that if traded, the acquiring team wouldn't have to deal with a huge cap hit. They'd only have to pay the base salary, which in many cases is much more reasonable. The Panthers would effectively be paying a player to perform elsewhere, however.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:38 AM

Well, perhaps we can get a little back with the right deal. Personally, I don't think D-Will looks cooked. He still has a burst if you ask me. It's just that the option crap is miring all of our backs in quicksand as opposed to playing to their strengths. Just my opinion though.