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What takes more faith: Theism or Atheism?


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#1 PhillyB

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:01 PM

By "theism" i simply mean belief in the existence of god - not any particular religion. just so we're clear.



think carefully before answering.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:06 PM

I know it takes a strong faith in nothing to ridicule somebody else's faith in something.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:18 PM

Atheisim.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:22 PM

The people I know who believe in god are by and large much more trusting type people than I am. Therefore, I say belief in god takes more pure faith.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:27 PM

The people I know who believe in god are by and large much more trusting type people than I am. Therefore, I say belief in god takes more pure faith.


aside from the examples of the mindsets people who probably don't even think about the issue in the first places, how would you answer? toss aside other people's opinions - examine the question by itself.

god versus not god.

given the ramifications of the answer, and the evidence lifted up for/against each, which would you say is more difficult to accept as an existential conclusion?

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:28 PM

Atheists require no faith as they live solely by verifiable evidence and observations. Faith is believing in something despite having no real reason to do so.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:29 PM

given the ramifications of the answer, and the evidence lifted up for/against each, \


Can I see some evidence for the existence of god?

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:31 PM

Can I see some evidence for the existence of god?


yes.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:34 PM

awesome

#10 PhillyB

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:34 PM

Can I see some evidence for the existence of god?


would you dial your level of skepticism impossibly high so as to avoid any uncomfortable personal philosophical conflicts you may encounter in the process?

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:36 PM

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:37 PM

would you dial your level of skepticism impossibly high so as to avoid any uncomfortable personal philosophical conflicts you may encounter in the process?


I happen to be an agnostic, not an atheist. But if you are telling me you have real verifiable evidence of a god, then really you should be prepping for your appearances every TV show worldwide next week.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:39 PM

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#14 PhillyB

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:40 PM

I happen to be an agnostic, not an atheist. But if you are telling me you have real verifiable evidence of a god, then really you should be prepping for your appearances every TV show worldwide next week.


the nature of the debate denies the ability to know for sure either way. because it cannot be empirically proved that this IS a god, or that there ISN'T, it takes at least some ammount of faith to chose whichever side you're on.

therefore, we have to go with the next best thing - and that's evidence.

there's quite a bit of evidence, zod.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:41 PM

yes, and M&Ms


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