Jump to content





Photo
- - - - -

Which of these players should be cut if unwilling to restructure?


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
33 replies to this topic

#1 panther4life

panther4life

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,655
  • Reputation: 1,181
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:13 PM

http://www.spotrac.c...olina-panthers/

When I list the dead money, I am referring to the remaining signing bonuses that will hit the cap. You can take the hit all in 1 year or spread it over 2 if you desginate them a june 1st cut.I don't personally condone cutting all of these guys but heres our highest paid players and their scheduled cap hits and how much it would cost to cut them(dead money)

To understand the net cap hit of cutting each indvidual take their total cap hit - minus the dead money. You can spread it over 2 years(thanks rocknrolla) but whatever number you see listed in parentheses is the amount that would take an immediate hit next to the year listed. Then the remaining numbers in parentheses would come off in the 2nd year. Scroll down and see Rocknrolla's example of spreading CJ'S cap hit over 2 years for more clarification.

Here is the scheduled cap hits by year, numbers in parenthese are guaranteed amount for that year.
Charles Johnson
13: 13 million(6 million)
14: 15 million(6 million)
15: 16 million (6 million)
16: 11 million(0 of it guaranteed)
17: free agent
18 million in dead money to be absorbed if cut

Beason
13:9.5 million(4 million)
14: 10.750(4 million)
15:11.750(4 million)
16:9 million (0 of if guarnteed)
17:free agent
amount of dead money to be absorbed if cut;12 million(signing bonus)

Williams
13: 8.2 million(3.2)
14: 9.2 million(3.2)
15: 10.2 million(3.2)
16:free agent
amount to of dead money to be absorbed if cut; 9.6 million(signing bonus)

Jordan Gross
13:11.7 Million(1 million)
14:9.7(0 guarnteed)
15:free agent
1 million in dead money to be absorbed if cut.

Steve Smith
13:6.25 millon(2.5)
14:8 million(2.5)
15:11 million(2.5)
16:9 million(0 guaranteed)
17:free agent
6.5 million in dead money to be absorbed if cut.

Chris Gamble
13:7.9 million(2)
14:8.5 million(2)
15: free agent
4 million in dead money to be absorbed if cut

Jonathan Stewart
13:2.8 million(1.8)
14:5.55 million(1.8)
15:8.3 million(1.8)
16:9.05 million(1.8)
17:7.75 million(0 guaranteed)
18: free agent
7.2 million in dead money to be absorbed if cut

Charles Godfrey
13:3.7 million(1.1)
14:7.1 million(1.1)
15:7.1 million(1.1)
16:6.4 million(0 guarnteed)
17:free agent
3.3 million to be absorbed if cut

Thomas Davis:
13:4 million(1.66)
14:7 million(1.66)
15:11.56 million(1.66)
16: free agent
4.98 million to be absorbed if cut

Greg Olsen
13:6.35(500k)
14:7.825(500k)
15:7.825(500k)
16: free agent
1.5 million to be absorbed if cut

James Anderson
13:4.4(1.4)
14:4.4(1.4)
15:5.4(1.4)
16:free agent
4.2 million to be absorbed if cut

Ron Edwards
13:3.33(833k)
14:free agent
833k to be absorbed if cut

#2 R0CKnR0LLA

R0CKnR0LLA

    Drunk Posting

  • Joined: 03-April 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 10,011
  • Reputation: 3,895
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:17 PM

lol wow these contracts are so bad

#3 jtnc

jtnc

    Resident Asshole

  • Joined: 28-November 10
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 13,660
  • Reputation: 3,664
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:20 PM

Marty made sure he fuged us one last time before he left.

#4 dksmith17

dksmith17

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPip
  • posts: 575
  • Reputation: 56
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:20 PM

Beason and Williams should be cut/traded IMO

#5 BeasonBeastingBacks

BeasonBeastingBacks

    Farewell Sweet Prince

  • Joined: 29-April 11
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 3,483
  • Reputation: 515
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:21 PM

0

#6 R0CKnR0LLA

R0CKnR0LLA

    Drunk Posting

  • Joined: 03-April 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 10,011
  • Reputation: 3,895
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:21 PM

Just to correct you here, when you designate a June 1st cut it doesn't cut the cap hit in half for the two years, you take the normal cap hit for the first year and then the entire remainder the following year.

For example, if Charles Johnson was designated a June 1st cut the 2013 dead money cap hit would be $6 million, and the remainder ($12 million) would hit in 2014.

#7 Kuech the Sneak

Kuech the Sneak

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 16-October 11
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,577
  • Reputation: 1,044
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:22 PM

Were in a pretty bad cap situation

#8 SOJA

SOJA

    Official Panthers Fan

  • Joined: 09-November 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 10,650
  • Reputation: 1,849
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:23 PM

Ron Edwards is likely gone with the acquisition of Dwan

#9 davos

davos

    €∞€∞€∞€

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 10,792
  • Reputation: 2,086
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:23 PM

That CJ contract is just ahhahhah

#10 panther4life

panther4life

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,655
  • Reputation: 1,181
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:27 PM

Just to correct you here, when you designate a June 1st cut it doesn't cut the cap hit in half for the two years, you take the normal cap hit for the first year and then the entire remainder the following year.

For example, if Charles Johnson was designated a June 1st cut the 2013 dead money cap hit would be $6 million, and the remainder ($12 million) would hit in 2014.


oh poo, thats not good.

#11 Catalyst

Catalyst

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 04-May 10
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,107
  • Reputation: 612
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:31 PM

KEEP:
Cam
Stewart
Tolbert
Olsen
Kalil
Silatolu
Bell
Johnson
Hardy
Alexander
Keiser
Anderson
T.D.
Kuechly
Gamble
Norman
Godfrey
Nortman

#12 jamos14

jamos14

    The Huddle Beast

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 1,853
  • Reputation: 998
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:42 PM

Why cut Ron? He is basically playing for vet minimum and we are getting solid production. Cutting him opens up another big hole at DT.

Unfortunately, I see Williams out the door for sure. I think everyone else stays. Beason, Gamble, and Gross are MUCH too valuable to let loose.

#13 panther4life

panther4life

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,655
  • Reputation: 1,181
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:47 PM

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but the prorated amounts I have in parenthese would be acclerated and hit the cap immediately if the player is traded, hence making pretty much half of them untradeable.



#14 GAme

GAme

    MEMBER

  • Joined: 07-August 12
  • PipPipPipPip
  • posts: 398
  • Reputation: 62
HUDDLER

Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:54 PM

gahhh Marty wtf were you thinking? Back to rebuilding mode I guess

#15 rayzor

rayzor

    shula is who i thought he was.

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • posts: -28,847
  • Reputation: 7,892
Moderators

Posted 24 October 2012 - 03:35 PM

Just to correct you here, when you designate a June 1st cut it doesn't cut the cap hit in half for the two years, you take the normal cap hit for the first year and then the entire remainder the following year.

For example, if Charles Johnson was designated a June 1st cut the 2013 dead money cap hit would be $6 million, and the remainder ($12 million) would hit in 2014.

yep. it's still not desireable, but it makes it a whole lot more manageable and this is pretty much the kind of thing that makes me worry very little and gives me confidence that it won't be too horrible for the next GM to fix.

i'm more worried about team building philosophies of the new people coming in and how aggressive they are in trying to get things turned around. a smart GM and coaching staff can make things work.