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#16 Sloth

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:41 PM

Ron Rivera didn't fumble & blow the Atlanta game.

Ron Rivera didn't make a horrible pass to a wide open TE to win the Seattle game.

Rivera sucks, but if you can blame him for losses then Cam should be held responsible also.



Newton didn't give up a hail mary past midfield with less than a minute to go in Atlanta.

Newton didn't cause Louis Murphy to not get 1 foot and score the play before the dirtball at Seattle.

Stewart averaged 2.5 a carry today and looked about as average as it gets. fug that guy, right?

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:44 PM

Your post is spot on really, dood is a complete fuging failure as a coach.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:46 PM

Anyone want to count how many yards on average Rivera gave up not punting it down field?

#19 Dick the Butcher

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:59 PM

Ron Rivera didn't fumble & blow the Atlanta game.

Ron Rivera didn't make a horrible pass to a wide open TE to win the Seattle game.

Rivera sucks, but if you can blame him for losses then Cam should be held responsible also.


You. Are. An. Idiot.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:11 PM

Ron passed on several 50ish yard kicks early last year.....always had an excuse

did you forget who the kicker was? i wouldn't tust him either....whch goes back to the OP.

i think he does have a fear of failure and he doesn't trust his players, BUT his players haven't really given him a lot of reason to be trusted.

it's a failure from top to bottom. coaches aren't coaching to their potential. players aren't playing to their potential.

rivera is scared of losing and his coaching reflects that. he tries to play it soft and safe and they end up losing.

the players are making a ton of crappy mistakes that is costing them games. those INTs of cam's...one was on olsen, the other on smitty. lot's of dumb mistakes in every game that played a huge part in each loss.

they are making a lot of mental errors and i'm not sure what can be done to fix that, but then i'm not a head coach which is kind of their job in helping to stop making stupid mistakes.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:25 PM

Rayzor, I agree with you, but at some point you've got to put your trust in the team. If you don't, it is the same as walking up to them and saying "I don't think you're good enough."

It may not stop the losing, and that's why you continue to improve the roster, but you have to let the players play. That last drive by the Bears was demoralizing. Send 7 on one play, or play tight man, and give someone a chance to make a play.

What he did at the end took the players out of the game. The same players that played their butts off all game. How would you feel right now if you were one of our defensive players?

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:27 PM

Players take on the personality of their coaches. So if the coach is scared they play scared which lead to poor performance on the field..

#23 brandon_87

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:09 AM

This is something that has been consistent since the end of last year. Ron's poor decision making is always due to not trusting the players. Cases in point from today:

1) Ron doesn't try a 51 yard field goal to end the half because he didn't trust Medlock to make it (even though we had nothing to lose if he missed it)

2) The strategy today on kick offs and punts because he didn't trust the ST's to make a tackle. We were lucky to even be in the game, putting the D on the field with the Bears at the 40 or better on multiple drives, and having the O starting out inside the 15 consistently. Then Nortman shanks the punt trying to punt the ball out of bounds. It would have been hard for Hester to have a greater impact on the game today than he did without even touching the ball.

3) Telling the D to play soft zone at the end allowing the Bears to methodically march down the field without resistance.

This is a recurring theme, and one I've complained about going back to last year. Ron tries to coach around perceived weaknesses, and it has bitten him in the butt more than it has succeeded. And it's a double whammy, because the players get the message as well that they aren't trusted to do their jobs.

Ron's problem is fear of failure, and I see no indication that he has changed in this regard since the day he was hired.



THIS... is the real reason we lost.... what coach in their right mind does that poo over and over? I honestly think we have been tackling better this year on kickoffs.... then when they take out big blockers.... and we STILL don't kick it down field? wow

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:12 AM

THIS... is the real reason we lost.... what coach in their right mind does that poo over and over? I honestly think we have been tackling better this year on kickoffs.... then when they take out big blockers.... and we STILL don't kick it down field? wow


Add to that the fact that we actually were punting to him early in the game and kept him contained. It blows my mind as well.

And we probably shouldn't mention the fact that we signed every ST specialist we could find in the offseason, yet still don't trust them to make a play.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:13 AM

Add to that the fact that we actually were punting to him early in the game and kept him contained. It blows my mind as well.

And we probably shouldn't mention the fact that we signed every ST specialist we could find in the offseason, yet still don't trust them to make a play.



"ace's" as they were referred to.... lmfao, what a joke for keeping a low budget ST

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:15 AM

How we let them run the exact same poo to win the game is what I want to know

#27 BIGH2001

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:29 AM

Rivera was scared of Hester because he killed us last year. I have no idea what he was thinking on the field goal or lack thereof before the end of the half. If it was a 60 yard kick, sure, but 50 yards?? In the NFL????

There is such a fine line in the NFL between winners and losers such that if your coaching staff doesnt think you can make plays to win and doesn't expect to win then your team really has no chance. This team reminds me a lot more of the 1-15 squad than any other group in Panthers history. A team that makes enough plays to win but manages to lose in miraculous fashion, being led by a brain dead idiot and mediocre assistants.

#28 Matthias

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:22 AM

Yeah, those squib kicks pretty much revealed the fear in Rivera. Right now he's afraid of losing his job. So with all that fear running around, we could have been ahead by 30 pts, the Bears would have come back and won the game. I said I lost complete confidence in this coaching staff after the Dallas game, but I'm sure there are still some of you, who want Rivera back next year if we start winning some games. Yet let's be real, the guy made no real adjustments after the Giants primetime beatdown, he made no adjustments after our bye week, and he was scared stiff by Hurney's firing to make some adjustments for the Bears game. If it takes fear to bring out adjustments, he got to go.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:33 AM

Cutler hadn't completed a deep pass all day, but we went into a prevent defense... smh

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:49 AM

Someone on the Huddle said that RR lack the killer instinct...


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