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#31 Proudiddy

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:53 AM

The root cause... Simple.

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#32 Murph

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:04 AM

Rivera is so conservative he makes John Fox look like Michael Moore.















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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:23 AM

I think Rivera simply isn't head coach material in terms of strategic thinking. It doesn't mean he is not smart. It's just not everyone's strong point.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:24 AM

I would not mind having him as a DC, having one third of the responsibilities. Head coaching is just too much for him to handle.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:28 AM

I would not mind having him as a DC, having one third of the responsibilities. Head coaching is just too much for him to handle.

But, technically Zod, it appears that he still only has 1/3 of the responsibilities even now as a HC. From pressers and comments he's made, it appears he gives the coordinators full autonomy in games, so all he is managing is timeouts and other situationals, but he doesn't oversee playcalling at all.

He seems to do a lot less than most HCs, so he shouldn't be making the mistakes he's making.

I hate that we were the team that decided to give him his chance considering 9 others didn't, and for good reason - he's in over his head.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:35 AM

But, technically Zod, it appears that he still only has 1/3 of the responsibilities even now as a HC. From pressers and comments he's made, it appears he gives the coordinators full autonomy in games, so all he is managing is timeouts and other situationals, but he doesn't oversee playcalling at all.

He seems to do a lot less than most HCs, so he shouldn't be making the mistakes he's making.

I hate that we were the team that decided to give him his chance considering 9 others didn't, and for good reason - he's in over his head.


He took the blame for playing soft coverage on the final drive, saying "I wanted to keep them in front of us". This seems to imply that he doesn't exactly give his coordinators exactly full autonomy.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:42 AM

He took the blame for playing soft coverage on the final drive, saying "I wanted to keep them in front of us". This seems to imply that he doesn't exactly give his coordinators exactly full autonomy.

You're right, I should've said 'up until this game.' Wouldn't you agree his comments post game prior to yesterday suggested he did give them full autonomy?

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:11 AM

Great thread and point Marguide... I see that in a lot of the things that have gone on this season... all of those you mentioned, plus things like not going for it on 4th and 1 in ATL and many, many other decisions. Protecting your players from making mistakes is one thing... completely not trusting them to earn their paycheck when the game is on the line is something else entirely.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:18 AM

You're right, I should've said 'up until this game.' Wouldn't you agree his comments post game prior to yesterday suggested he did give them full autonomy?


Yeah, I think he definitely did to start the season. I believe he's slowly took more control of play calling as the season has progressed. He's stated as much.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:20 AM

Lmao Ron Cocksucker Rivera.


Our head coach sucks cocks!!

#41 Proudiddy

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:23 AM

Yeah, I think he definitely did to start the season. I believe he's slowly took more control of play calling as the season has progressed. He's stated as much.

Yeah, I think the Hurney firing expedited the process as well. But, it's even more troubling that it feels like each time he's asserted more control he's made his most glaring mistakes.

Trying not to be a prisoner of the moment here, but it's really tough.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:24 AM

What was the coaching staff thinking when the Panthers where moving down the field on their last offensive drive at the end of the game where they needed to kick a field goal to go ahead with a few minutes left???

What do you do on that kind of drive??

Well you call plays to move the markers and wear down the clock....get the ball as close as possible for a chip shot field goal with a few seconds left on the clock............kick the FG as time runs out and win......

What do we do????

Instead of working plays that were moving the sticks like we did all the way down the field we get on their side of the feild and with 2nd and short yardage for another first down we take two downs to throw the ball down the field?.......trying to get a touchdown???

WTF???

with 2:27 on the clock why don't you get the first down and run the ball closer to the goal for a chip shot FG and leave no time left on the clock for the Bears to get the ball back???

I told myself when they were passing on those two downs that even if we made the FG we would lose the game when we kick back to the Bears and give Cutler the middle of the field to march down into FG territory with 10 to 15 yard passing plays in the middle.

Ron Rivera has no cognitive or organizational skills to manage this game.............

Mark my words.............RR will never be a head coach again after he gets fired from this team.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:41 AM

Rivera has played not to lose his entire time here and still had the epiphany that it's the reason they lose.


Nothing illustrates his fear more than punting out of bounds and squibbing all day. Hester hadn't done poo this year. The Panthers special teams is doing alright. He made Hester more of a factor without even letting him touch the ball.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:13 PM

I was thinking the exact same thing as the OP but didn't put it out there.

I'm glad Marguide stated it so well.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:03 PM

I opened this thread looking for one word:

FEAR.


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