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[quote name='2jakefansinva' timestamp='1351522402' post='1970202']

I said the coaches came in with a great game plan.

and I see your blaming smitty's slip and a shanked punt on coaching.
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I blame the shanked punt on coaching. Also, we aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow the Bears to play pitch and catch on the final drive. We aren't having this conversation if they dumped the read option after the Giants game. (If they never applied the read option) We aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow Roddy White to get behind the defense 60 yards down the field. I can go on and on...... It's the same story, different chapter.

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[quote name='Matthias' timestamp='1351522796' post='1970222']

[b]I blame the shanked punt on coaching.[/b] Also, we aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow the Bears to play pitch and catch on the final drive. We aren't having this conversation if they dumped the read option after the Giants game. (If they never applied the read option) We aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow Roddy White to get behind the defense 60 yards down the field. I can go on and on...... It's the same story, different chapter.
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then you will blame anything on the coaching.

btw.....if your going to blame them then you need to give them credit for taking away

one of the bears biggest weapons ie....Hester and their special teams.

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[quote name='Matthias' timestamp='1351522796' post='1970222']
I blame the shanked punt on coaching. Also, we aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow the Bears to play pitch and catch on the final drive. We aren't having this conversation if they dumped the read option after the Giants game. (If they never applied the read option) We aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow Roddy White to get behind the defense 60 yards down the field. I can go on and on...... It's the same story, different chapter.
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Its like watching the same movie over and over. And you always know how the ending is gonna go. Same script, same director.

This summer I want the Panthers to come out with a movie called The Expendables starring Ron Rivera, and some of the Panther vets and scrubs.
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[quote name='2jakefansinva' timestamp='1351523110' post='1970237']
then you will blame anything on the coaching.

btw.....if your going to blame them then you need to give them credit for taking away

one of the bears biggest weapons ie....Hester and their special teams.
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They didn't take him away at all. The shanked punt was a Hester play. Besides, Hester haven't done nothing all year, they even squibbed the ball when all the Bears needed was a field goal at the end of the game. This staff is hilarious.

By the way, kickoffs have been moved up last time I checked. Our kicker should have been able to kick the ball through the endzone, making the Bears start at the 20. Would that not be taking away Hester more effectively? To me the gameplan was, "We might get beat by an interception return for a TD, we might get beat by Cutler and Marshall playing catch, but we'll be jacked up if we get beat by Hester's return game!" Awesome plan Rivera!

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overall the team did better than it has most of the season. couple stupid mistakes leading to INTs but for the most part well played and well coached...up until the last 5-10 minutes.

tried to protect a lead rather than doing what had been working incredibly well all game. took the foot off the gas and lost the game.

rivera and this coaching staff is not clutch at all. they can't handle the idea of success and constantly shoot themselves in the foot.

i am more than ready to move on at this point. i've seen more than enough. no one could have anticipated how bad this would be turning out. it's almost as bad as clausen at QB. most of us weren't expecting a star, more just an average QB, but what we got was the worst QB in the league.

i'm sure rivera is one of the best DCs in the league...but he's got no business being a HC.

one thing i know...i don't want anymore coordinators as HC and i sure don't want a DC as one. i didn't want one last time. i wanted an offensive minded coach. i wanted jim harbaugh.

let's get someone with HC experience next time for game management skills and let's get someone known for being consistently aggressive. chances are you aren't going to find that in a DC.
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I hear people everywhere going "the coaches came in with a great gameplan" and giving them a lot of credit. They made some changes under duress after Hurney was used to send a message to them that noone is safe then they poo the bed in the game when it mattered.

Here's all we need to know about our coaching staff. We have lost games this year by: 6, 2, 4, 5, and 1. Consistently losing close games is indisputably a [i]coaching problem[/i]. A well coached team finds a way to win some of those games. A poorly coached team finds a way to lose them. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding.
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[quote name='mwright350' timestamp='1351524606' post='1970296']
I hear people everywhere going "the coaches came in with a great gameplan" and giving them a lot of credit. They made some changes under duress after Hurney was used to send a message to them that noone is safe then they poo the bed in the game when it mattered.

Here's all we need to know about our coaching staff. We have lost games this year by: 6, 2, 4, 5, and 1. Consistently losing close games is indisputably a [i]coaching problem[/i]. A well coached team finds a way to win some of those games. A poorly coached team finds a way to lose them. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding.
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I would like to take this further and say, there was nothing special about their gameplan, particularly offensively. Everybody in their grandmama could see the read option offense was garbage. Any plan that leaves that out is a goldmine. Of course we will look better without it. Yesterday only further proves we have talent on this team that can go up against the big dogs in the league, but this staff is holding that back. Even the players are voicing their opinions on this matter.

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[quote name='Matthias' timestamp='1351524903' post='1970312']
...Even the players are voicing their opinions on this matter.
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Funnily enough this is an even further indictment against this coaching staff. If they had even a semblance of control / respect in that locker room players would not be making the statements they are.

Is there a grade below F that we can give them?
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I hear people everywhere going "the coaches came in with a great gameplan" and giving them a lot of credit. They made some changes under duress after Hurney was used to send a message to them that noone is safe then they poo the bed in the game when it mattered.

Here's all we need to know about our coaching staff. We have lost games this year by: 6, 2, 4, 5, and 1. Consistently losing close games is indisputably a [i]coaching problem[/i]. A well coached team finds a way to win some of those games. A poorly coached team finds a way to lose them. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding.
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winning teams find a way to do it every week regardless of how the odds may be stacked against them. losing teams find a way to lose regardless of how well they perform.

this is a losing team and the coaching staff isn't making it any better.

i'd like to know how many of those games we've lost this year were games that we had the lead in the 2nd half or even in the 4th quarter.

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Funnily enough this is an even further indictment against this coaching staff. If they had even a semblance of control / respect in that locker room players would not be making the statements they are.

Is there a grade below F that we can give them?
[/quote]an F that's followed by "ired" instead of "ail".

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1351525182' post='1970324']
winning teams find a way to do it every week regardless of how the odds may be stacked against them. losing teams find a way to lose regardless of how well they perform.

this is a losing team and the coaching staff isn't making it any better.

i'd like to know how many of those games we've lost this year were games that we had the lead in the 2nd half or even in the 4th quarter.
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If we had a competent staff, I bet you this team would be at least 5-2. I can say this because of the stupid read option offense we ran until it got someone fired. I wasn't surprised at all we were beating the Bears for most of the game yesterday, because I know the kind of talent we got on this team. The team didn't find a way to lose, the coaches did. In fact, if the players started rebelling against some of the calls this staff put in, we would probably end the season with at least 7 wins.

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The coaching grade is a bit generous.

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