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Panthers 7th in yards per offensive play, 28th in Total Offense

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Where is that troll who said that everything revolved around ypp?

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does the OP remind anyone of PFFT?

I thought he was originally, but he's using stats from ESPN and NFL.com (such as sorting o-lines by sacks given up as an overall o-line metric LMfugingAO) rather than espousing some retarded advanced metric that he doesn't really understand. So I dunno.

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I thought he was originally, but he's using stats from ESPN and NFL.com (such as sorting o-lines by sacks given up as an overall o-line metric LMfugingAO) rather than espousing some retarded advanced metric that he doesn't really understand. So I dunno.

hard to believe he hasnt been here before under another user name.

regardless....hard to take this clown seriously. just another one trick cam hating pony.

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hard to believe he hasnt been here before under another user name.

regardless....hard to take this clown seriously. just another one trick cam hating pony.

Yeah, agreed. Just another idiot to latch on to some random stat and make retarded posts over and over and over again.

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Cam Newton has attempted 51 passes on 3rd down. He has completed 25 of them. 49% completions.

31% of the attempts have been at 3rd and 3-7

39% have been at 3rd and 8-10

29% have been at 3rd and 11+

There is nothing unusual about those distance ratios.

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I thought he was originally, but he's using stats from ESPN and NFL.com (such as sorting o-lines by sacks given up as an overall o-line metric LMfugingAO) rather than espousing some retarded advanced metric that he doesn't really understand. So I dunno.

didn't he dump ypp at some point late last year because the numbers didn't wash anymore? carolina finished in the top half of the league by season's end after all.

that and his main man The Golden Calf of Bristol taking a poo against the pats and then getting traded.

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Cam Newton has attempted 51 passes on 3rd down. He has completed 25 of them. 49% completions.

31% of the attempts have been at 3rd and 3-7

39% have been at 3rd and 8-10

29% have been at 3rd and 11+

There is nothing unusual about those distance ratios.

Other than the fact that 70% of our 3rd downs have been of the third and long variety? Get the fug outta here.

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didn't he dump ypp at some point late last year because the numbers didn't wash anymore? carolina finished in the top half of the league by season's end after all.

that and his main man The Golden Calf of Bristol taking a poo against the pats and then getting traded.

I'm pretty sure he had melted down and left the forum before our YPP had normalized.

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Cam Newton has attempted 51 passes on 3rd down. He has completed 25 of them. 49% completions.

31% of the attempts have been at 3rd and 3-7

39% have been at 3rd and 8-10

29% have been at 3rd and 11+

There is nothing unusual about those distance ratios.

Let me break this down a little bit more for you.

As I stated, about 70% of our 3rd downs have been of the guaranteed passing variety; ie third and long (7yards to go or more)

EVERY QB IN THE LEAGUE is going to have worse than their average numbers against defenses who are aligned against obvious passing downs.

One first down you will notice an almost league split of 50/50 in pass to run ratio and as such QB's LEAGUE WIDE will have higher completion percentages because defenses can't completely sell out to stop the pass. In fact in most cases teams err on the side of run defense on first down. This trend continues into second down.

Once you get into third down, anything over 3rd and three becomes a passing down at an incredibly high rate, league wide. This means that you are going to be forced to complete a pass against a defense that is ready to defend against it. It becomes even harder when you don't run any quick hitting routes to pick up a designed 5-8 yards and instead rely primarily on downfield passing, like we did for the first 6 games.

Every QB in the league is going to have a worse completion percentage on third down than on first. Our offensive design did nothing but exacerbate an already existing trend.

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Let me break this down a little bit more for you.

As I stated, about 70% of our 3rd downs have been of the guaranteed passing variety; ie third and long (7yards to go or more)

EVERY QB IN THE LEAGUE is going to have worse than their average numbers against defenses who are aligned against obvious passing downs.

One first down you will notice an almost league split of 50/50 in pass to run ratio and as such QB's LEAGUE WIDE will have higher completion percentages because defenses can't completely sell out to stop the pass. In fact in most cases teams err on the side of run defense on first down. This trend continues into second down.

Once you get into third down, anything over 3rd and three becomes a passing down at an incredibly high rate, league wide. This means that you are going to be forced to complete a pass against a defense that is ready to defend against it. It becomes even harder when you don't run any quick hitting routes to pick up a designed 5-8 yards and instead rely primarily on downfield passing, like we did for the first 6 games.

Every QB in the league is going to have a worse completion percentage on third down than on first. Our offensive design did nothing but exacerbate an already existing trend.

Well, then, why don't you do something really adventurous and compare Cam Newton's 3rd down situational stats with those of other quarterbacks in the NFL.

Just an example: Newton on 3rd and 3-7 is at 43.8%.

The next worse I could find is Russell Wilson at 48 %

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Well, then, why don't you do something really adventurous and compare Cam Newton's 3rd down situational stats with those of other quarterbacks in the NFL.

Just an example: Newton on 3rd and 3-7 is at 43.8%.

The next worse I could find is Russell Wilson at 48 %

It becomes even harder when you don't run any quick hitting routes to pick up a designed 5-8 yards and instead rely primarily on downfield passing, like we did for the first 6 games.

Every QB in the league is going to have a worse completion percentage on third down than on first. Our offensive design did nothing but exacerbate an already existing trend.

That was hard to find.

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Well, then, why don't you do something really adventurous and compare Cam Newton's 3rd down situational stats with those of other quarterbacks in the NFL.

Just an example: Newton on 3rd and 3-7 is at 43.8%.

The next worse I could find is Russell Wilson at 48 %

Like I stated, we didn't really have many passing plays that were designed for 3-7 yards. Our primary route tree were slow developing passes out of the read option. This allowed defenses to tee off on Newton and sell out on the pass. Again, our offensive design just exacerbated an already existing natural trend.

Newton likely wouldn't have tops in the league with proper play calling and design, but it wouldn't be near the bottom either. The kid is young, he's not supposed to be the best in the league in his second year. But really, this is more of a symptom of overall offensive design fault than any true indictment against Cam.

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