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The main reason for Cam's demeanor and "slump"...

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Eh, I won't put this on Rivera. This is just something Cam is going to have to learn to deal with. I'd say the best thing for him here is a veteran backup QB that has experienced the pressure before. Ironically, Jake Delhomme would be perfect to show Cam how to handle this stuff.

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Cam has NOT acted the same this season as last year. He was all smiles and upbeat last season. He looks like he is not having fun out there right now. I know the play calling has been sub-par, but this outcome is on Cam as well as the coaches.

Their playcalling has sucked, but Cam's execution has been sub-par.

Like most of the time, you are wrong.

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Same coach as last season. Def not the same qb

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there was a culture of apathy here long before rivera got here.

the only thing required for you to get a huge contract was that you were drafted by the panthers. there was no expectation of being great. all you had to be was decent. that was on hurney.

the team itself never had the bar raised as far as expectations. fox, after that first and legendary meeting with the team wher he told them all that no one's job was safe, never really challenged the players to be great. all they had to be was just good enough to keep your job. excuses were constantly made for being underachievers and a mindset of "it is what it is" permeated the team. apathy.

in hiring rivera, it seemed we got someone with fire but really all we've seen is fox minus an winning season. maybe if he had inherited a better defense and an oline that was roided up rivera might have had equal the success, but the bar was never raised moving from fox to rivera.

part of the problem remaining is the players on the team that were used to losing and just shrug their shoulders and continue saying, "it is what it is" only now they've added to their language, "here we go again" kind of just expecting things to fall apart at the first sign of trouble. but what do they care? they still get paid.

this team might need another gutting or a heart transplant. we might need to get more off the team from the fox/hurne era than what has already been cut off.

all of that said, cam has the power to change his own perception and mindset. he may have been brought down by a losing culture that is here, but that's no excuse for not being able to fight back. all of the guys on the team have that same power...or at least they should. most of them are followers, though. just a couple are actually leaders and cam is one of the few and probably has more power of influence than any one else in that lockerroom.

he can be a ray lewis type leader, but first he needs to start fighting again and quit being so controlled or influenced by his surroundings. the only one that can make that happen is cam. but the other grownups on that team need to suck it up as well and quit accepting defeat. they need to be players that make things happen at the end of the game. they need to be guys that turn it on at crunch time.

i think they fight most of the game, but at the end they just allow themselves to get slack because they don't have any confidence in themselves to be able to finish. they expect something to go wrong rather than expecting themselves to be that clutch guy that makes things happen when ther number is up.

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I believe there could be some truth to this. I think they handle him with kid gloves.

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Like most of the time, you are wrong.

Cam's demeanor is different...his results are different.

The only things that are the same is the fact that Cam's footwork and mechanics are still weak and that you are still an idiot.

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Lmao can already see where this thread is heading.

Usual crew coming in and spewing the usual rhetoric. Go jump off a cliff already ya miserable bastards.

For the record, Cam has some improving to do. This doesn't change the fact Ron is a piss poor coach, in every facet.

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A qb needs two things to be successful. 1. Great weapons around him or 2. A good system in place. You can make the argument that he has #1 but that has been loaded mostly in the backfield that hasn't been working this year. At this age in his career smitty would make a great slot receiver but he's not a #1 receiver and lafell is a #2 some days others he looks like a #3. And I think we can all agree he doesn't have a good system in place. I dare you to find one qb that is winning without a great system or an elite receiving core

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Lmao can already see where this thread is heading.

Usual crew coming in and spewing the usual rhetoric. Go jump off a cliff already ya miserable bastards.

For the record, Cam has some improving to do. This doesn't change the fact Ron is a piss poor coach, in every facet.

Pretty much all you ever do is complain about what others post and complain about the coaching you miserable bastard!

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Pretty much all you ever do is complain about what others post and complain about the coaching you miserable bastard!

Pot meet kettle. Get over it csx.

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It's a balance you have to have with Cam. If you're too hard on him, he'll quit listening to you and rebel. If you're too easy on him, he'll take advantage of that. A lot of people are like this.

Rivera hasn't found that comfortable medium. Gene Chizik did.

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1-6...that's the reason.

i know it's the reason for my demeanor and slump.

Wait till it turns to 1-15! :startle:

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