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#31 stirs

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

When someone is blatantly breaking the law, it is hard for me to split hairs because a dog smelled his truck load of drugs. We use them at the border on cars also. When can you use a dog if not in these probably cause cases?

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:39 AM

And you don't see anything at all wrong with this? Ends justify the means I guess


No I don't. The police should focus their efforts in places that ACTUALLY have high levels of crime.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 07:30 AM

Any area with a higher police focus, when compared to an area with little police presence, is going to have higher levels of documented crime. Because, well....it should be obvious.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:25 AM

Any area with a higher police focus, when compared to an area with little police presence, is going to have higher levels of documented crime. Because, well....it should be obvious.


This makes no sense.

You are saying that if you park the whole police force in an area that normally has no crime issue, they all of a sudden find criminals everywhere?

Think you assessment might be off on this one.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:51 AM

This makes no sense.

You are saying that if you park the whole police force in an area that normally has no crime issue, they all of a sudden find criminals everywhere?

Think you assessment might be off on this one.


You clearly don't understand how police manufacture crime. FYI, drug crime exists in all demographics.

#36 stirs

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:05 AM

I clearly don't.

You are assessing that every person is equally criminal/non criminal and the only reason some are caught are the police presence. I can't agree with that.



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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:09 AM

You clearly don't understand how police manufacture crime. FYI, drug crime exists in all demographics.


Does is "exist" in all demographics? Yes

Does it "exist at similar levels" in all demographics? Not even close

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:13 AM

but if it saves one life.............



That's what they keep saying. While it really means, "you aren't doing anything wrong that we can see, so we will make up a law saying that we don't need probable cause to board you".

All in the name of safety.......

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:53 AM

MH, you do realize that everyone in your "high crime area" arent actually criminals? In fact most of the peoe in those neighborhoods arent. But its ok to stop and search them for no apperent reason just so you can feel better?

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:15 PM

MH, you do realize that everyone in your "high crime area" arent actually criminals? In fact most of the peoe in those neighborhoods arent. But its ok to stop and search them for no apperent reason just so you can feel better?


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:16 PM

MH, you do realize that everyone in your "high crime area" arent actually criminals? In fact most of the peoe in those neighborhoods arent. But its ok to stop and search them for no apperent reason just so you can feel better?


I am not saying to search everyone in those areas. However, crime is higher in those areas and that should be the area of focus for the police.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:05 PM

I can agree with that but when the results indicate that people of color are getting stopped in ludicrous amounts doesnt that sou d fishy?

I forget where i heard this but i recall reading that lime 98% of these stops also result in no charges its just a waste of tax dollars so why keep doing it

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:22 PM

No I don't. The police should focus their efforts in places that ACTUALLY have high levels of crime.


Yea except for white collar crime.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

Yea except for white collar crime.


lol, we both know that doesn't count.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:35 PM

White collar guys need to go to jail the same way, but normally are not caught with drug dogs


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