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#16 Mvp2014

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:39 AM

I think someone said that on here before, but from what I have read he has 2-3 million in bonus each year, for the next 3 years. If we can cut him in June with no penalty I would feel a little better. I just get sick of talented 1st round picks leaving and getting nothing in return. A trade before we extended him would have been nice

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:42 AM

Agreed, with the exception of Cam and 1 or 2 others, no one is safe.

yep. i think/hope the new GM is going to have a lot of free reign to rebuild quickly with only a couple people being considered by JR to be untouchable. cam absolutely being one of them.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:46 AM

I think someone said that on here before, but from what I have read he has 2-3 million in bonus each year, for the next 3 years. If we can cut him in June with no penalty I would feel a little better. I just get sick of talented 1st round picks leaving and getting nothing in return. A trade before we extended him would have been nice


WE will have a penalty, his remaining prorated signing bonus will be accelerated against our cap. If we were to trade him his cap figure would go up for US by 4.2 million this year, and if we did it after the season was over we cut wait until after the deadline (can't remember the date off the top of my head) that allows for us to spread this hit over two years, which would make his cap hit on the books for two additional years at about 4.8million per.

It is actually beneficial for us to trade him this year, if we do indeed wish to rid ourselves of him. By trading him we can accelerate his bonus immediately which is a little over 12million while shedding his 8million and change cap hit for a net increase of 4.2 million or so. Should we cut him right after the season we would be on the books for 9.6 million next year in cap, or if we wait past the deadline, 4.8million for two years.

My point earlier was that whatever team he was traded to could cut him after this year with no penalty, NOT that we could.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:47 AM

i don't have any proof whatsoever.


Then you need to add "i think" before your thread title. You won't get as many hits but I'm sure you already knew that.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:00 AM

If DWill stays, Rivera will surly lose his job

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:29 AM

Reasons why he will not be traded:

1. It is the smart thing to do. Not the Panther way.
2. His contract is ridiculous.
3. There are better players to be had who are younger and cheaper

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:45 PM

Joe Person@josephperson
DeAngelo Williams dismisses reporters' questions about trade possibility. Asked how he deals w the talks, Williams said "By doing what I'm..

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"...doing right now. Going to work." Williams was on his way to the weight room."

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:50 PM

Well, this is interesting...

There's been a decent amount of rumors that the Packers could be sniffing around DeAngelo and now Aaron Rodgers drops this little nugget:

http://profootballta...nt-good-enough/

“Quantity is important – we want to have a certain amount of runs every game to keep them honest,” Rodgers said, via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “But I have to say the quality of them has not been anywhere where we’d like them. . . . We’ve got to run the ball better.”

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:56 PM

he ain't going to green bay...

Despite back-to-back disappointing games, Alex Green will remain the Packers' lead back, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel's Tom Silverstein.

Coach Mike McCarthy has expressed disappointment in the ineffective rushing attack after the past two games, but Green is apparently getting a pass on his inability to read what little holes have been opened. McCarthy reportedly believes Green -- with a 2.40 YPC the past three weeks -- "deserves the opportunity" and offers "breakaway" potential lacking in James Starks. Per Silverstein, GM Ted Thompson's preference is to save his money (as well as the requisite draft picks) to extend the contracts of Clay Matthews, B.J. Raji, and Aaron Rodgers as opposed to ponying up for high-salaried trade candidates such as Steven Jackson or DeAngelo Williams.



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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:12 PM

Multiple league sources tell Profootballtalk.com there's a "viable chance" DeAngelo Williams is traded ahead of Thursday's 4ET deadline.

According to reporter Darin Gantt, "several" teams have reached out to Carolina, and the "interest is serious." The sizable cap hit the move would entail has led many to believe Williams is untradeable, but according to Gantt, the Panthers are "absolutely" prepared to take the hit if a desirable deal presents itself. Gantt believes it "seems apparent" Williams won't be back with the Panthers in 2013 even if he stays put Thursday. As if it wasn't already clear, Jonathan Stewart no longer has competition for lead-back duties in Carolina.

October 31, 3:30 pm

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:15 PM

Multiple league sources tell Profootballtalk.com there's a "viable chance" DeAngelo Williams is traded ahead of Thursday's 4ET deadline.

According to reporter Darin Gantt, "several" teams have reached out to Carolina, and the "interest is serious." The sizable cap hit the move would entail has led many to believe Williams is untradeable, but according to Gantt, the Panthers are "absolutely" prepared to take the hit if a desirable deal presents itself. Gantt believes it "seems apparent" Williams won't be back with the Panthers in 2013 even if he stays put Thursday. As if it wasn't already clear, Jonathan Stewart no longer has competition for lead-back duties in Carolina.

October 31, 3:30 pm


Hopefully we at least get our 3rd round pick back for him...

#27 MHS831

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:17 PM

Hopefully we at least get our 3rd round pick back for him...


I would LOVE that. I am thinking a 4th-5th.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:19 PM

I'd be sick if we took anything less than 2nd for him. How can Gantt or anyone else speak in absolutes about the future of Williams, when we will have a new gm and more than likely a whole new coaching staff heading into 2013?

Hell the article even states that the 9.6 million dollar cap hit would take its effect against the 13 cap. His scheduled cap hit for 13 is 8.2 million.

I personally just can't get behind the idea of trading him. I would understand it more if we planned on keeping this current coaching regime but I just don't see that happening nor do I endorse it.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:23 PM

It will take some restructuring of other deals to accommodate the 9.6 million hit.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:25 PM

I'd be sick if we took anything less than 2nd for him. How can Gantt or anyone else speak in absolutes about the future of Williams, when we will have a new gm and more than likely a whole new coaching staff heading into 2013?

Hell the article even states that the 9.6 million dollar cap hit would take its effect against the 13 cap. His scheduled cap hit for 13 is 8.2 million.

I personally just can't get behind the idea of trading him. I would understand it more if we planned on keeping this current coaching regime but I just don't see that happening nor do I endorse it.


I don't think there is any way we are getting a 2nd rounder for DWill.

Here are his last 3 seasons:
http://www.nfl.com/player/deangelowilliams/2495979/profile
A 2nd rounder is not justifiable.

A 29 year old RB that is past his prime with 1400 rushing yards over the last 3 seasons doesn't equate to 2nd round pick.

I think MHS is more on target with 4th-5th rounder.


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