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"Serious" chance D-Will gets traded

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Multiple league sources tell Profootballtalk.com there's a "viable chance" DeAngelo Williams is traded ahead of Thursday's 4ET deadline.

According to reporter Darin Gantt, "several" teams have reached out to Carolina, and the "interest is serious." The sizable cap hit the move would entail has led many to believe Williams is untradeable, but according to Gantt, the Panthers are "absolutely" prepared to take the hit if a desirable deal presents itself. Gantt believes it "seems apparent" Williams won't be back with the Panthers in 2013 even if he stays put Thursday. As if it wasn't already clear, Jonathan Stewart no longer has competition for lead-back duties in Carolina.




A little different then what we've been hearing. I think he gets traded by a desperate team.

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Can we merge this? All these Dwill trade threads make my eyes bleed.
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NFL LIve reported the same thing....DeAngelo is the only big name trade still being considered....Jackson is off the market, so this actually helps the Panthers right now.

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"Viable" is the word the article used. You then ran with that and turned it into "serious". Theres quite a difference in those two words.

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Only way a D Will trade would even REMOTELY make me happy:

Is if on Draft day we somehow finagled our way back into the first round... Even then I would not be happy with our current backfield.

I say he stays though long term because my scenario would likely never happen... And if we took anything less than the first pick in the 2nd rnd we would be seriously fuggin ourselves from a talent standpoint. Contract be damned.... Talent wise, if we get anything less than a 1st rounder with his career stats and lack of injury we'd literally be shooting ourselves in the foot.

Just my .02

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goodness, we may be in position to fleece a desperate team in a trade.

how times have changed.

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it would be laughable to get a first round pick for a 29 year old running back lol.

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One guy on Fox mentioned getting a second for Williams from GB. If they offered that, they can have him in a heartbeat and ill throw in a used copy of Assassin's Creed: Revelations.
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If we can get anything for Williams and get out of his contract, then we are LUCKY. We will cut him if we can't trade him, because we will never pay him in 2013....we would be lucky to get a 3rd or 4th rounder for him....I really don't want a draft pick...I want a CB.

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Trade this scrub and be done with it.

P.S. OP: "serious" isn't synonymous with "viable"

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I'm ballparking a 5th.

A 4th would be nice, 3rd is pie in the sky, a 2nd and we'd be wanted in 18 states.
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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1351716235' post='1973984']
Only way a D Will trade would even REMOTELY make me happy:

Is if on Draft day we somehow finagled our way back into the first round... Even then I would not be happy with our current backfield.

I say he stays though long term because my scenario would likely never happen... And if we took anything less than the first pick in the 2nd rnd we would be seriously fuggin ourselves from a talent standpoint. Contract be damned.... Talent wise, if we get anything less than a 1st rounder with his career stats and lack of injury we'd literally be shooting ourselves in the foot.

Just my .02
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That trade wouldn't even go through in Madden. He's 29 with a HUGE contract. You trade him NOW while he has value with teams in the hunt looking for help at RB. We need the cap relieve and D. Will is no longer the best RB on this team. There is no chance in hell you get a 2nd, and at this point we'd be LUCKY as hell to get a 3rd.

If we don't unload him now, all that's going to happen is that the new GM will unload him and we will get much less back, if anything.

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What would the cap hit be if we trade him?

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[quote name='KDawg004' timestamp='1351716686' post='1974004']
What would the cap hit be if we trade him?
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Even though trading Williams now would cause [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/28/deangelo-williams-more-likely-to-be-traded-in-the-offseason/"]an immediate $9.6 million acceleration[/url] onto next year’s salary cap, a source with knowledge of the situation said the Panthers are “absolutely” prepared to absorb that hit if the right deal comes along.

Moving Williams would benefit the Panthers in two ways, First, it would make more than $17 million in future base salaries go away (all his guaranteed money was in the first two years of his deal), for a player who has already fallen behind [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4650/jonathan-stewart"]Jonathan Stewart[/url] on the depth chart.
[/quote]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/31/panthers-prepared-to-take-cap-hit-if-right-williams-deal-comes-along/

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I'd rather just use him, properly.
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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1351716235' post='1973984']
...And if we took anything less than the first pick in the 2nd rnd we would be seriously fuggin ourselves from a talent standpoint...
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Currently, we may not need to trade anyone to get the first pick in the 2nd round. *sigh*

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We could do that, but I'd say there is a 0% chance the new GM will keep him. We need some help on both sides of the ball and his contract is horrible. If we wait around his value will dwindle

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RB is becoming nearly the most disposable position on offense in the modern NFL. carrying the weight of giant contracts for two running backs is hard to justify.
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Its funny how so many of you want to trade him simply because of his contract and think he is so damn old.

Half of you fail to realize we are in a favorable position to get him to restruture next year since he will no longer have have any guaranteed money coming to him. Thinking that a 3rd or worse is good compensation for the teams number 1 touchdown threat over the last 5 years is a good idea blows my mind. He is only 29 and obviously not getting much wear and tear on him.

Yes he is not having success in the current scheme but nor is Stewart or Tolber for that matter. The reason all of our backs suck right now(Chudzinski) will be not be a factor next year as he will be gone.


Also if we trade him our cap hit will be 9.6 million next year. If we keep him and he refuses to restructure then his cap hit is only 8.2 million. This a dumb idea and only being floated around by the media for the traffic it creates by praying on panther fans that are starved for something interesting to talk about in the midst of our current meltdown.

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The hell of it is if we trade him for a draft pick or picks those picks may be " undisclosed" - we may not know for a long time what we got out of him.

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[quote name='Dpantherman' timestamp='1351716657' post='1974002']

That trade wouldn't even go through in Madden. He's 29 with a HUGE contract. You trade him NOW while he has value with teams in the hunt looking for help at RB. We need the cap relieve and D. Will is no longer the best RB on this team. There is no chance in hell you get a 2nd, and at this point we'd be LUCKY as hell to get a 3rd.

If we don't unload him now, all that's going to happen is that the new GM will unload him and we will get much less back, if anything.
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DWill is still the best RB on this team without question. Check some stats and get back to me bro.

He had a better avg against Chicago and he got almost all of his carries Out Of The WILDCAT! Don't come at me or anybody else that really knows what's up with that BS!

Stew has gotten the nod, but he's still not better than DeAngelo.... That's a FACT based off of stats... Not an opinion just because I like him.
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[quote name='Dpantherman' timestamp='1351716768' post='1974005']

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/31/panthers-prepared-to-take-cap-hit-if-right-williams-deal-comes-along/"]http://profootballta...al-comes-along/[/url]
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Thanks!! So in essence we would be paying $9.6 mill in dead money next season but then be freed of his contract? If so, that sounds good to me since we're not using him at all.

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[quote name='I Registered To Post This' timestamp='1351716895' post='1974010']
RB is becoming nearly the most disposable position on offense in the modern NFL. carrying the weight of giant contracts for two running backs is hard to justify.
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If that was the case then we wouldnt have so many of these supposed teams inquring about him. Also if Hurney did one thing right, it was structruing the contracts to where we would not be forced to absorb a big cap hit from Stewart and D-will in the same season.

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