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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:19 PM

Not many things the private sector and states cannot do better than the Federal Government. What Romney is proposing is a better, more efficient system, not an abolished one. But those who bow down to the Fed Gov as master cannot see it. Maybe those in NJ with no gas wonder why they cannot buy gas from neighboring state without a lot of rules and regulations being waived. Maybe the red tape Obama mentioned in his "lean forward" speech the other day needs to be permanently gotten rid of. I guess nobody caught the admission of tons of red tape with FEMA.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:01 PM

This country already tried what the human Etch-A-Sketch (Romney) is proposing. FEMA was created because individual federal agencies, states, volunteer organizations and private business were unable to effectively train, prepare for, and coordinate disaster relief. Every year tens of thousands of Americans suffered needlessly because of it.

Since the late 70's FEMA has done a good job of coordinating disaster preparation and relief.

That is, until GWB showed up and the wheels fell off.

One need look no further than how the Bush Administration handled Hurricane Katrina after downgrading FEMA's importance and loading it up with their political cronies instead of properly trained professionals. The Bush Administration gave a whole new meaning to the word "disaster" in Disaster Relief with their performance.

Katrina is a preview of the future for FEMA if Romney and the neocons get their way. It is deja vu all over again with Romney's ideas. The neocon base has completely blocked out the 8 years under GWB and yet they want to go right back to his policies. How strange is that?

This is a common theme among GOP supporters (e.g. banking reform, EPA, abortion, medicare, SS., women's rights, racial equality). They’re too young to appreciate the crucial events and human suffering that drove these changes, and/or they’re too self absorbed to value these changes, and/or they’re just too busy trying to stay in lockstep with the neocon beliefs of their leaders at FOX.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:56 PM

nan you forgot to mention repealing of the Glass Stegall act and trying to reign in Freddie and Fannie pre financial meltdown. oops.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:57 PM

Where did he say he wanted to dismantle FEMA?


He never said it.

In a debate in the primaries, he said that we should send back to the states what can be sent back to the states, and privatize what can be privatized. A relatively bland statement that doesn't really mean a lot.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:12 PM

He never said it.

In a debate in the primaries, he said that we should send back to the states what can be sent back to the states, and privatize what can be privatized. A relatively bland statement that doesn't really mean a lot.

That's what he said stripped of all context, sure. But he said it in response to a FEMA question. If someone asks you about FEMA and you say "we should give power to the states and/or privatize," you're saying you want to get rid of FEMA.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:22 PM

This country already tried what the human Etch-A-Sketch (Romney) is proposing. FEMA was created because individual federal agencies, states, volunteer organizations and private business were unable to effectively train, prepare for, and coordinate disaster relief. Every year tens of thousands of Americans suffered needlessly because of it.

Since the late 70's FEMA has done a good job of coordinating disaster preparation and relief.

That is, until GWB showed up and the wheels fell off.


I think you need to stop accessing huffington and go back and read the stories of some of the events that FEMA did a "good job" with.

FEMA was heavily criticised for several of the Hurricanes it delt with before Katrina. Katrina gets most of the coverage because it was an unprecedented disaster (the potential for which was known and ignored during the Clinton administration), but FEMA's response to Andrew, Hugo, Floyd and several other major events was error prone. Fortunately none of those responders had to deal with the issues that Katrina responders had to deal with, ie an immobile population, a pathetic response from local and state governments, and a city that is basically a bowl that sits below sea level.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:25 PM

That's what he said stripped of all context, sure. But he said it in response to a FEMA question. If someone asks you about FEMA and you say "we should give power to the states and/or privatize," you're saying you want to get rid of FEMA.


Hogwash.

He said it needs to be more efficient and some control needs to be given back to the states.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:26 PM

He never said it.

In a debate in the primaries, he said that we should send back to the states what can be sent back to the states, and privatize what can be privatized. A relatively bland statement that doesn't really mean a lot.


What the human Etch-A-Sketch said was a political remark intended as red meat for those neocons that believe the states and private business can do anything the feds can do, only better. Romney didn't count on Sandy making him have to reinvent himself, yet again.

Reality is, that states used to take the lead along with the private sector for most of our country's existence and we finally realized after a lot of unnecessary human suffering that it wasn't working very well.

Fortunately none of those responders had to deal with the issues that Katrina responders had to deal with, ie an immobile population, a pathetic response from local and state governments...


Exactly, let's look at Louisiana's ham handed state and local response to Katrina. It is a perfect example why we require a properly managed FEMA, instead of 50 miniature SEMAs trying to do the same job.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:15 AM

and it only took a natural disaster in the economic center of the world.

During the primaries he wanted to dismantle it. Now he is making sweet love to it.


Not ready for prime time when these decisions effect so many.



Hmmmmm.......

Too bad Obama doesn't support FEMA.




http://www.nbcnewyor...-Dive/176839571


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:22 AM

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:19 AM

This country already tried what the human Etch-A-Sketch (Romney) is proposing. FEMA was created because individual federal agencies, states, volunteer organizations and private business were unable to effectively train, prepare for, and coordinate disaster relief. Every year tens of thousands of Americans suffered needlessly because of it.

Since the late 70's FEMA has done a good job of coordinating disaster preparation and relief.

That is, until GWB showed up and the wheels fell off.

One need look no further than how the Bush Administration handled Hurricane Katrina after downgrading FEMA's importance and loading it up with their political cronies instead of properly trained professionals. The Bush Administration gave a whole new meaning to the word "disaster" in Disaster Relief with their performance.

Katrina is a preview of the future for FEMA if Romney and the neocons get their way. It is deja vu all over again with Romney's ideas. The neocon base has completely blocked out the 8 years under GWB and yet they want to go right back to his policies. How strange is that?

This is a common theme among GOP supporters (e.g. banking reform, EPA, abortion, medicare, SS., women's rights, racial equality). They’re too young to appreciate the crucial events and human suffering that drove these changes, and/or they’re too self absorbed to value these changes, and/or they’re just too busy trying to stay in lockstep with the neocon beliefs of their leaders at FOX.



FEMA doing a fine job

Like I said earlier, all we need is an attentive media and Toby Keith saying BO doesn't like white people and we are back to Katrina

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 07:33 AM

Politics rule.

Of course I am certain MSNBC will be raising a ruckus over this. Not

http://www.waff.com/...-sandy-recovery

hate it for the folks in NJ, but, hey, they are making their bed.......

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 07:37 AM

Mayor diverting huge generators to Central park for "NYC marathon" instead of using them for people in need.

Man, if only he were a Repub, he would be skewered. But, he and the President are safe, Dems abusing Dems with Dems in the media. a non story.

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1195599

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:34 AM

You know how I know most of you have never been through a disaster?

You claim that FEMA is doing a good job......

The only things that held small towns in NC together during Bertha, Fran, and Floyd were locals, not some damn federal government agency that doesn't know it's ass from a hole in the ground.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:55 AM

But, it makes Liberals feel good to say "they" have done something to help.


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