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#76 TruthVsComfort

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:07 PM

Pretty much the running flaw with modern republicans.


Yep. They are generally against the government, yet run for election to be in government. Then they purposefully do shitty jobs of running the government to make their point of how bad government is.

Democrats actually understand the strengths of government and do a far better job of governing.

FEMA was poo under Bush Senior
FEMA was good under Clinton
FEMA was back to poo under Bush again
FEMA works again now that Democrats are running the poo.

This is not new.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:21 PM

Yep. They are generally against the government, yet run for election to be in government. Then they purposefully do shitty jobs of running the government to make their point of how bad government is.

Democrats actually understand the strengths of government and do a far better job of governing.

FEMA was poo under Bush Senior
FEMA was good under Clinton
FEMA was back to poo under Bush again
FEMA works again now that Democrats are running the poo.

This is not new.


You're looking too far into the charades. There is no difference between republicans and democrats. To say republicans are against the government is silly...both parties have been very outspoken on their love for big government through their actions over the years. The existence of government is what gives them the levels of authority and control that they desire...so to suggest that either one of these power-hungry parties are against government is naive to say the least.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:25 PM

Yep. They are generally against the government, yet run for election to be in government. Then they purposefully do shitty jobs of running the government to make their point of how bad government is.

Democrats actually understand the strengths of government and do a far better job of governing.

FEMA was poo under Bush Senior
FEMA was good under Clinton
FEMA was back to poo under Bush again
FEMA works again now that Democrats are running the poo.

This is not new.


You have a selective memory. FEMA did not do a good job with Hurricane Floyd when Bill Clinton was running things.

Over the past 20 years or so, FEMA has been pretty effective when the storms followed predicted paths. But when they do something unpredicted (like backhand New Orleans while the primary impact was in Miss as Katrina did, or cause massive flooding inland like Floyd did), FEMA doesn't make adjustments well and is slow to handle the aftermath).

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:45 PM

The biggest problem with FEMA and disaster response is:

Some victims expect FEMA to arrive on site within 2 hours of the storms passing - then they expect water, food, fuel and a check 2 hrs after that. They expect the government to "fix" everything within 1 day. The media does not help either - they are quick to jump on any bandwagon where a victims screams injustice because they are not getting the governments undevided attention.

Massive disasters - things just do not happen that quickly. You have to be able to take care of yourself for a few days and give time for the relief efforts to get into action.

What amazes me the most is that there are literally days of forecast and path projections and yet the average person would rather wait for the government to take care of them instead of preparing to take care of themselves.

Like the people you see accepting the free generator from FEMA - then selling it to the pawn shop 2 months later - then complaining next year when it takes FEMA a couple of days to start handing out generators again?

Presidents can't fix everything - but they tend to get blamed for everything. Some people need to look in a mirror to see where it starts.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:26 AM

During one of the 2011 GOP presidential debates sponsored by CNN, Mitt Romney argued that the Federal Emergency Management Agency should be disbanded and replaced by handing over the responsibility to the states to deal with their own emergencies.

Here’s what the Republican candidate had to say when asked whether FEMA should be shut down:

“Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?”

When moderator, John King, responded “Including disaster relief, though?”, Mitt Romney had this to say—

“We cannot — we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids.It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we’ll all be dead and gone before it’s paid off. It makes no sense at all.

http://www.forbes.co...-the-gop-today/


THIS was the question (not "should FEMA be dismantled"):

At a Republican primary debate in June of 2011, CNN’s John King asked Mitt Romney for his views on disaster relief. “FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say, ‘Do it on a case-by-case basis.’ And there are some people who say, ‘You know what, maybe we’re learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role.’ How do you deal with something like that?”


Why don't you actually present facts rather than spin?

#81 Panthers_Lover

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:28 AM

New Jersey Governor Christie has, today, gone on record making it very clear that he not only wants FEMA aid, he wants it now and he is in no mood to see New Jersey residents get caught in the political cross-fire as Republicans in Congress look to find offsetting budget cuts to pay for the huge amount of aid that FEMA will be expected to provide in the face of what looks to be a $100 billion dollar financial catastrophe.

Resp0nding to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s latest statement that he is not interested in FEMA helping unless and until offsets can be located, Christie had this to add—

“You want to figure out budget cuts, that’s fine,” Governor Christie said. “You’re going to turn it into a fiasco like that debt-limit thing where you’re fighting with each other for eight or nine weeks and you expect the citizens of my state to wait? They’re not gonna wait, and I’m going to fight to make sure that they don’t.”

Gov. Christie noted that this was not a partisan issue. To further drive home the point, he introduced New Jersey Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg to add his own two cents on the subject.

“We are gonna fight like hell against those who want to cut back on FEMA”s funding,” the Senator said. “We cannot do this without lots of money.”

Indeed, so concerned is Governor Christies that the feds be there for him now that he needs them, he went so far as to compliment President Obama yesterday saying, ““I appreciated the president’s outreach today in making sure that we know he’s watching this and is concerned about the health and welfare and safety of the people of the state of New Jersey.”

http://www.forbes.co...-the-gop-today/


As long as it's the system we have in place, hell yeah, Christie ought to do whatever he can to get assistance from the federal government for his state. No doubt about that.

#82 Panthers_Lover

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:29 AM

No it's not. He's actually taking it farther than you did, suggesting that he would rather see private companies do this. You are making this up.


Who's making what up? Why don't you actually check what the question was and what the answer was?

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:30 AM

Number 1, its a stupid answer, because if you farm all this stuff out to the states, people are still going to pay for it with taxes.
Number 2, he did specifically say he'd somehow like private companies to take responsibility for disaster management.
Number 3, he never mentioned anything about keeping FEMA, or it had a role...just that the states or private companies should do it to reduce the deficit. That means that yes, he would get rid of FEMA.


YOUR interpretation ... not what he said.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:33 AM

Yep. They are generally against the government, yet run for election to be in government. Then they purposefully do shitty jobs of running the government to make their point of how bad government is.

Democrats actually understand the strengths of government and do a far better job of governing.

FEMA was poo under Bush Senior
FEMA was good under Clinton
FEMA was back to poo under Bush again
FEMA works again now that Democrats are running the poo.

This is not new.


Or maybe the media is telling you FEMA works now ... again, ask the people in Staten Island.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:48 AM

FEMA goes to SEMA under Romney

Sort of like an FBI and an SBI

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 12:03 PM

Obama 4 prez.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:09 PM

Bring back the hula hoop!


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