Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Why is Rivera failing as a head coach?


  • Please log in to reply
56 replies to this topic

#16 thefuzz

thefuzz

    coppin a feel

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,060 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:31 AM

Honestly, I don't think that the team is built for the way that Chud wants to run his O.

He is trying to run a version of the Coryell offense, but without some of the player to do so.

Chud is guilty of abandoning the run, but is it effective even before he looks the other way.

Are our players committed enough to know the playbook inside and out? And if they are, do we have to talent to make it all "click"? I personally think that we are just devoid of talent right now, and are overpaying guys that we shouldn't be.

We need DL and OL like you wouldn't believe, and a WR that can run this system.

#17 beastson

beastson

    Big Money

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,175 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:33 AM

No sense of urgency. I'm sorry but waiting until we're 1-5 to finally do things different is completely unacceptable

#18 Fox007

Fox007

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,278 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:38 AM

I have always thought that some people are just meant to be coordinators. Not everyone should be a HC and the NFL seems to always be falling in love with the next hot coordinator.

Sometimes it works, more often than not, it doesn't.

This is why Chud was not a serious candidate for being a HC.
Also, Wade Phillips and Dom Capers can run a good defense, but suck as a HC.

#19 Actionman0z

Actionman0z

    Strong Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,786 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:41 AM

I do not know what the answer is, but I hope Chip Kelly can fix it.

#20 Baby Andy Reid

Baby Andy Reid

    finally someone fatter than Alice

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,263 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:37 PM

The whistle from his vag distracts him during the most important moments!

#21 JawnyBlaze

JawnyBlaze

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,298 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:55 PM

I have always thought that some people are just meant to be coordinators. Not everyone should be a HC and the NFL seems to always be falling in love with the next hot coordinator.

Sometimes it works, more often than not, it doesn't.

This is why Chud was not a serious candidate for being a HC.
Also, Wade Phillips and Dom Capers can run a good defense, but suck as a HC.


I totally agree. The skill sets for coordinating and coaching aren't directly transferable. That's why I've said all along I want someone with successful HC experience to be our next coach, whether it's in college or the NFL. I'd even think about someone from CFL.

#22 Marguide

Marguide

    South of the Border

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,474 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:06 PM

I just don't think he has been properly prepared and mentored by the people he's worked for. In Chicago, Lovie didn't really want him and replaced him as soon as he could bring in his own guy, so I doubt Lovie was helping him prepare for the next step. In San Diego, Norv just isn't that good himself, so he probably couldn't effectively prepare him.

Some coordinators have a good knowledge of both sides of the ball even while they specialize in one. Rivera is not one of those.

All this adds up to a guy who just wasn't ready.

#23 ladypanther

ladypanther

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,268 posts
  • LocationWNC

Posted 02 November 2012 - 07:46 PM

His decision about the defense to run on the Bears last drive was so incredibly flawed. Just can't understand. All I can think is he was so afraid of the big play screw up a la the Falcons that he could not see the current game situation. I am disappointed...because we thought we knew he was at least a very good D coordinator.

And, that awful 2 min "drive", in the 1st half of....not sure.....the Seattle game? Hard to believe that was a pro team.

I wanted Rivera to be the man. He said the right things in the beginning. But, once again, I believe this team is undercoached. As someone else said, this seems to be over his head.

#24 PantherPhann89

PantherPhann89

    CPP "Carolina Panther Phann"

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,205 posts
  • LocationSC

Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:17 PM

Because every coordinator can't be a HC...

#25 Keep Pounding

Keep Pounding

    Smith & Wesson 460

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,765 posts
  • LocationIn your backyard!!!!

Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:46 PM

Most on the board might disagree with me. But I still feel Rivera deserves one more year if he can at least win 4 or 5 out of the theft 9 games.

The DEF is playing pretty damn good, I would have given my left nut to have this DEF playing how it is now in 2011.

I also think that having a crappy GM, who IMO mismanaged the salary cap, left this team with too many holes for a rookie HC to be successful and that carried over into the this year also.. We have lost A LOT of close games over the last 2 years. But at least we have been competitive.

With a new GM coming to town, if he wants to hire a whole new coaching staff, I think that would put us back at square 1. Players learning new systems will have growing pains, and I think we would have the same complaints about the new HC as we do about RR now.

#26 Marguide

Marguide

    South of the Border

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,474 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:16 PM

With a new GM coming to town, if he wants to hire a whole new coaching staff, I think that would put us back at square 1. Players learning new systems will have growing pains, and I think we would have the same complaints about the new HC as we do about RR now.


You should probably prepare to be disappointed then, because new GM's almost always bring in coaches they are familiar with and trust. The odds of Rivera surviving a change in GM's are very, very low.

#27 SmittyistheGOAT

SmittyistheGOAT

    MEMBER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 340 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:42 PM

Lack of in game adjustments and a lot of in game coaching errors as in mismanagement of time outs, and the good ole Medlock 50 yard field goal.

#28 Brooklyn Bully

Brooklyn Bully

    #1

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,503 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:50 PM

Some people aren't meant to be head coaches. There is always risk with giving the job to a coordinator.

#29 ladypanther

ladypanther

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,268 posts
  • LocationWNC

Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:54 PM

Some people aren't meant to be head coaches. There is always risk with giving the job to a coordinator.


There is a significant risk with anyone.

#30 Snake

Snake

    swagaholic

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,515 posts

Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:55 PM

Riveras failure is a combination of a bad Personal department and bad game planning and adjustments. There was a reason Rivera did not get a job from other teams. We took a chance on him and it backfired.


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Shop at Amazon Contact Us: info@carolinahuddle.com