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this kid is the real deal

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check out the +/- on the box score to see the kind of impact MKG already has on our team
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I look forward to coach Dunlap slowly increasing his role/minutes till he's a 35 mpg player. Benching him is pointless because he burns just as much energy cheering for his teammates from the bench as he does playing.

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MKG is going to become a great, great, great defender. He's only will and will become a very very good scorer also. An "Allstar" in a couple years.

Kemba has looked better and I hope he stays consistent and improve. Biyombo other hand is probably going to become a bust seriously. I hate to say it and it's not that I'm a "bad fan" but I hope will suck or tank it in the next two years also. It's for the good and future of this team. If we could stay in the Top4 the next two years and add two great talents to go along with Kemba and MKG, great things will happen.

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Biz just looks uncomfortable out their, he is thinking too much. I think he can still be a Kendrick Perkins type, and i'm ok with that. I never expected him to be a scorer just a good defender and rebound guy. I think he goes for blocks too much taking him out of position for rebounds. offense will only come off dump offs for dunks from the guards.

MKG on other hand fits in naturally, he plays in flow of the game and is a stat stuffer. His offense will improve as he continues to grow as a player, his defense and effort are already at a high level.

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[quote name='kman72' timestamp='1352064548' post='1980206']
Biz just looks uncomfortable out their, he is thinking too much. I think he can still be a Kendrick Perkins type, and i'm ok with that. I never expected him to be a scorer just a good defender and rebound guy. I think he goes for blocks too much taking him out of position for rebounds. offense will only come off dump offs for dunks from the guards.

MKG on other hand fits in naturally, he plays in flow of the game and is a stat stuffer. His offense will improve as he continues to grow as a player, his defense and effort are already at a high level.
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I don't even think Biz can make a Perkins type of player. Biz seems slow and very clumsy. I don't even think Biz can become a good rebounder. If anything lets just hope he can become a defender. Crossing my fingers and toes.

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I was so high on Biz but I really don't think he will ever develop an offensive game. Hes not that bad of a rebounder and he can block shots except when he goes against guys that are good with head fakes etc. Sometimes he just seems so lost, although unlike TT he hustles. Now....one thing to feel optimistic about biz is his body. He has put on some muscle from last year and he is only 20 yrs old with a frame that looks like he could go strait manimal if he wants to. If biz can become a big muscular freak with hops then I can live with that.

Kemba at times shows flashes of brilliance. I hope he does not settle on becoming a streaky PG like augustine. Lets wait it out some more as both of these guys are still young.

MKG on the other hand is a lion on the court. He is 19 and punking grown men in the NBA already. When he is in the game the bobcats are just a different team. A guy like dunlap is a match made in heaven for MKG.

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[quote name='cavic7585' timestamp='1352085463' post='1981381']
I was so high on Biz but I really don't think he will ever develop an offensive game. Hes not that bad of a rebounder and he can block shots except when he goes against guys that are good with head fakes etc. Sometimes he just seems so lost, although unlike TT he hustles. Now....one thing to feel optimistic about biz is his body. He has put on some muscle from last year and he is only 20 yrs old with a frame that looks like he could go strait manimal if he wants to. If biz can become a big muscular freak with hops then I can live with that.

Kemba at times shows flashes of brilliance. I hope he does not settle on becoming a streaky PG like augustine. Lets wait it out some more as both of these guys are still young.

MKG on the other hand is a lion on the court. He is 19 and punking grown men in the NBA already. When he is in the game the bobcats are just a different team. A guy like dunlap is a match made in heaven for MKG.
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Agree on MKG and Dunlap. I believe he's the right coach for this team. He has a leadership and charisma that you can see on him.

I'm very close to calling Biz a bust. I hate it and I dnt want to bc I love the guy but he is pretty bad since in summer league this year and now these two games of the season. If he stays this way, we land a top4 pick, and McAdoo blows out this upcoming season for UNC, Ima have McAdoo all over for the Bobcats.

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Bismack was always going to be a long term project- most big men take a while to develop and adjust to the NBA, and some take a really long time. I'll give him his rookie contract before I call him a bust

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Bismack was always going to be a long term project- most big men take a while to develop and adjust to the NBA, and some take a really long time. I'll give him his rookie contract before I call him a bust
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It may take him two contracts before you see any improvement from him. I know he had a great game vs DHoward last season but that was an upset Howard at the time. Biz was terrible, "TERRIBLE" playing in summer league this year. And looked very bad vs Dallas. I may call it a quit after midseason if I don't see anything soon.

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I love the pick..its what the Bobcats need even though Lillard the is more explosive scorer...it needs to start cuturally where a Lillard type would flounder here as a primary scorer.

MKG may not win MVP ever but he is a team changer. im all in and respect the way he plays.

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Match him with another star he can bounce his play off of and this team is set. This pick (which I was vehemently against) was the absolute correct pick.

He will be a good one.
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[quote name='TANTRIC-NINJA' timestamp='1352221760' post='1984250']
I love the pick..its what the Bobcats need even though Lillard the is more explosive scorer...it needs to start cuturally where a Lillard type would flounder here as a primary scorer.

MKG may not win MVP ever but he is a team changer. im all in and respect the way he plays.
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Think thats hindsight 20/20 from you of Liilard lol.
Yea Lillard is going to be very good and a top 5 PG one day but no one knew he was going to be this good. People knew he was good, but being from a small school, his stock dropped a bit and the "famous" players like MKG get taken ahead.

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I think MKG will really shine when he's on a team with better players. He isn't supposed to be the focal point of the offense and I don't expect him to be a standout until he is surrounded with better talent. So this year, I am not expecting much other than hustle, defense, and rebounds.

As far as Lillard, I loved him coming into the draft but we had Kemba. They only way he was even a possibility if Kemba had been traded before the draft. Lillard is the new breed of score-first PGs. That's not to say he can't get others involved. Utilizing the pick and roll with Lillard is the perfect way for him to become a facilitator. He was the one rookie who I thought would challenge Davis for ROY.

I don't think Lillard's stock fell at all. If anything it rose. He was the 6th overall pick. I would have taken him before MKG if we had traded Kemba.

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Considering the roster I've been happy with the Bobcats, far better effort and mentality.

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[quote name='Johnny Kilroy' timestamp='1352337396' post='1986986']
I think MKG will really shine when he's on a team with better players. He isn't supposed to be the focal point of the offense and I don't expect him to be a standout until he is surrounded with better talent. So this year, I am not expecting much other than hustle, defense, and rebounds.

As far as Lillard, I loved him coming into the draft but we had Kemba. They only way he was even a possibility if Kemba had been traded before the draft. Lillard is the new breed of score-first PGs. That's not to say he can't get others involved. Utilizing the pick and roll with Lillard is the perfect way for him to become a facilitator. He was the one rookie who I thought would challenge Davis for ROY.

I don't think Lillard's stock fell at all. If anything it rose. He was the 6th overall pick. I would have taken him before MKG if we had traded Kemba.
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Don't worry there's Myck Kabongo next year. He's a pass first PG.

I love Kemba and Sessions a lot but they're not going to manage your offense and pick the defense apart.

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[quote name='Jackofalltrades' timestamp='1352349484' post='1987252']
Considering the roster I've been happy with the Bobcats, far better effort and mentality.
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Seriously. Doesn't look like a Silas' team anymore. Whew

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Biyambo/Kabongo 2013?
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[quote name='Sapper' timestamp='1352392210' post='1987657']
Biyambo/Kabongo 2013?
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Ofcourse. Kabongo is damn good. I think he'd be upgrade over Kemba and Sessions. Kabongo is a Canda Native like Nash. Hes a first pass PG who will pick defense apart. Had a mediocre season last season at Texas but look for him to improve and rise his stock this upcoming season.

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Kabongo is pretty good, not sure he's top 5 quality. I think we need to target a PF next year.

Watch out for Kasey Hill, he's a HS Senior now. Dude is one of the best PG prospects I have seen in a while.

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[quote name='Johnny Kilroy' timestamp='1352399844' post='1987868']
Kabongo is pretty good, not sure he's top 5 quality. I think we need to target a PF next year.

Watch out for Kasey Hill, he's a HS Senior now. Dude is one of the best PG prospects I have seen in a while.
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Yea, didnt say wanted him in the top 5-10 but if we get another mid to late 1st, I'd take Kabongo in a heart beat.

And fosure, that 2014 class is lock and loaded with Kasey Hill, Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, and Julius Randle.

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[quote name='carolina-chuck' timestamp='1352400308' post='1987878']
Yea, didnt say wanted him in the top 5-10 but if we get another mid to late 1st, I'd take Kabongo in a heart beat.

And fosure, that 2014 class is lock and loaded with Kasey Hill, Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, and Julius Randle.
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Gotcha.

And yes, now that Wiggins has reclassified, it makes that class that much more loaded.

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[b]Glad to see mkg getting some recognition. Cause as a huge UK fan I have to say he was over-shadowed by davis. which is understandable when you look at davis's resume'. But I knew mkg would be a major impact where ever he landed. Just glad it was in N.C. Hopefully they can build up some talent around him and our pro teams success might be equal to our college teams success. Personally i don't care to much for the nba but he could bring enthusiasm to the state and recapture my interest.[/b]

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lol@those who hated on MKG.



.....and i'm a tar heel.

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lol@those who hated on MKG.



.....and i'm a tar heel.
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Foreal. You didnt know how many haters there were before the draft. But good to knoe most of them are changing or have change their minds bout the KIDD.

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[quote name='Harris Aballah' timestamp='1352403352' post='1987973']
[b]Glad to see mkg getting some recognition. Cause as a huge UK fan I have to say he was over-shadowed by davis. which is understandable when you look at davis's resume'. But I knew mkg would be a major impact where ever he landed. Just glad it was in N.C. Hopefully they can build up some talent around him and our pro teams success might be equal to our college teams success. Personally i don't care to much for the nba but he could bring enthusiasm to the state and recapture my interest.[/b]
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Maybe he was overshadowed in the state of Kentucky or as a UK fan by Davis. But being an outsider looking into the team, no smart person doubted the skills and talents the KIDD had. He's playin very well in the first 3gms of his career and we're very fortunate to build a franchise with him.

And we're, we'll myself am not done yet with any UK players. I love UNC, Duke, State and Wake but how is Nerlens Noel coming along? Have college preseason started yet? I'd love to add another UK player in Noel since we got screwed by David Stern and loss out on Davis.

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I m sorry but did the kidd score 20 points or something?. Not sure what game guys are watching but he hasnt looked as good as i d like the number 2 pic to look

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