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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:41 PM

Cam is a threat on any bootleg - did it again today, but we never can seem to "find" that play in a crucial time of the game like late in the 4th to extend a drive?

I just don't get it.

We did in Atlanta and it didn't work because of execution. The fumble, remember?

IMO you need to stop looking at the play calling separately in each game and look at it as a whole, all season so far.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:44 PM

The only thing holding this offense back is Chud - absolutely! We ran the ball pretty strong on the drive that D-Will scored on - but then never came back to any of those run plays later in the game?

We always seem to start out in a pro set, but after the 1st qtr we end up in a shotgun pretty much every play?

Cam is a threat on any bootleg - did it again today, but we never can seem to "find" that play in a crucial time of the game like late in the 4th to extend a drive?

I just don't get it.


blows my mind. It's like he goes brain dead.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:44 PM

We did in Atlanta and it didn't work because of execution. The fumble, remember?

IMO you need to stop looking at the play calling separately in each game and look at it as a whole, all season so far.


That's what I'm trying to do.

And the one constant of all of it has been the terrible playcalling and lack of identity.

"My QB's throwing hand is bleeding every where? Chuck it three times!"

"QB just completed an 82 yard pass to Armanti? Pull Armanti, WILDCAT!"

It's things like these that boggle my mind. Are we a college offense? If we are, the Redskins showed us today what a college offense looks like in the NFL. Are we an Air Coryell offense? We're averaging ~19 ppg.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:55 PM

That's what I'm trying to do.

And the one constant of all of it has been the terrible playcalling and lack of identity.

"My QB's throwing hand is bleeding every where? Chuck it three times!"

"QB just completed an 82 yard pass to Armanti? Pull Armanti, WILDCAT!"

It's things like these that boggle my mind. Are we a college offense? If we are, the Redskins showed us today what a college offense looks like in the NFL. Are we an Air Coryell offense? We're averaging ~19 ppg.

I simply answered your question. If that's what you're trying to do, then please don't ask a question that isn't relavent.

(1) I'm sure Cam said with a nod to Shula that his thumb was okay, don't worry about it. He would've called time out if it was a problem. Gotta' treat the man like an adult after all. It was a thumb injury and those always bleed more than they hurt, even paper cuts.

(2) Surprise is the centerpeice of every play. Give the defense what they're not expecting. And IMO that's what they were trying to do with the wildcat. I'm not even sure that Armanti wasn't on the field with that wildcat. I haven't gone back and watched it yet.

If you stop trying so hard to pigeonhole our offense, you just might enjoy the win more. Just sayin'.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:01 PM

I simply answered your question. If that's what you're trying to do, then please don't ask a question that isn't relavent.

(1) I'm sure Cam said with a nod to Shula that his thumb was okay, don't worry about it. He would've called time out if it was a problem. Gotta' treat the man like an adult after all. It was a thumb injury and those always bleed more than they hurt, even paper cuts.

(2) Surprise is the centerpeice of every play. Give the defense what they're not expecting. And IMO that's what they were trying to do with the wildcat. I'm not even sure that Armanti wasn't on the field with that wildcat. I haven't gone back and watched it yet.

If you stop trying so hard to pigeonhole our offense, you just might enjoy the win more. Just sayin'.


Armanti wasn't on the play, came off the field after the pass. (I assume he was exhausted), but that's not the big deal. Why not put the ball into your QB's hands, who just had a huge pass, and let him try to do what he does.

Also, surprise? Is the Wildcat really a surprise anymore? "Oh hey, DeAngelo's behind center. HE MOST CERTAINLY ISN'T GOING TO RUN STRAIGHT AHEAD". I don't mean to sound condescending, but the Wildcat isn't surprising anyone anymore.

And maybe if more people would try to improve, even when we win, then winning would become the norm. Just because we won another game doesn't mean Chud, or Rivera, or McDermott, or anyone else gets off the hook. It means we're 2-6 with lots of room to get better.

Accepting a win and saying to "just anything the win more" isn't going to create a winning environment. Saying things like "our offense needs to improve because we don't have an identity" or "our special teams play is incredibly poor" is going to improve the team, especially when members of the media start mentioning it and asking the coaching staff/players about it.

We as Panthers fans don't need to accept one win.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:04 PM

Jeez, I'm done. You're a Sad Sack and I can't help that. Enjoy.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:07 PM

lol, I would post a umad.jpg right here, but I'd get in trouble.

Instead, I'm going to go on and say that even after today's game, the Redskins are 7th in the NFL in total offense and the Panthers are 21st. We're apparently not even doing the zone read/college offense right.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:07 PM

Balanced offense = W

Keep Cam around 25 throws a game and our offense will be a lot more efficient.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:08 PM

Zod can we have a one day bashing moratorium?

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:14 PM

The only thing holding this offense back is Chud - absolutely! We ran the ball pretty strong on the drive that D-Will scored on - but then never came back to any of those run plays later in the game?

We always seem to start out in a pro set, but after the 1st qtr we end up in a shotgun pretty much every play?

Cam is a threat on any bootleg - did it again today, but we never can seem to "find" that play in a crucial time of the game like late in the 4th to extend a drive?

I just don't get it.


Amazing.
How about the Chicago game last week?

Carolina's final drive...
3rd and 1...
Fate to Tolbert left, naked bootleg right by Newton for 16 yards and a first down...
Biggest play of the drive...

a drive that featured 7 yards passing...


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