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So no posts about leadership?

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And Charles Johnson is one of the highest paid DEs in the league. Should we really be jumping up and down when he does his job? Isnt he supposed to create pressure and get sacks? Johnson makes a lot more money than our QB too. Just tell me Fox007 are you putting the honus on Charles Johnson to carry us against Peyton and Foxy? Is Charles Johnson and our D the bread and butter of our team?

CJs contract falls under the "Hurney Magic" category.

And there is no question that the defense has played better than the offense this year.

The 4th quarter production from the offense has been horrible in most of the games over the last two years.

I really liked the fact that Cam celebrated with the rest of the offense today when he scored, it's still a small sample size of acting the "correct" way.

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So basically when we lose, we need to talk about intangibles, but when we win, no need to mention that with a QB like Cam. Gotcha.

You guys want it both ways.

Not trying to feed the rage monster here but, Cam didn't have to carry the team today. The running game was there, and the defense made life hard for Bob. Cam wasn't put in a position to fail, and surprisingly enough we won. He did a great job managing the game and he relied on his teammates. This is our formula. I don't feel the need for Cam to be Brady, Peyton or brees. I just want him to relax and play his game. The kid needs to have fun out there. He's not ready to lead and we all need to understand that. It's unfair to expect it of him.

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I really liked the fact that Cam celebrated with the rest of the offense today when he scored, it's still a small sample size of acting the "correct" way.

Had he not acted the correct way, we dont win. That defense thats playing so much greater than our offense has carried us to 1 win in 2 years. The other 8 in the Rivera era have been all offense. Including our 30 point performance over the Saints earlier in the season.

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I defend Cam, and agree you aren't hearing the same old poo out of trolls, but man you're really reaching when you say he inspired the defense.

Lol.

Kuechly has much more to do with the defense, and leading it, than Cam has ever had.

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I'm with you op I was the one that made the cam must win thread so I get it

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I defend Cam, but man you're really reaching when you say he inspired the defense.

Lol.

Kuechly has much more to do with the defense, and leading it, than Cam has ever had.

Well if Cam throws a pick, chances are our defense doesnt play well and damn sure doesnt win us the game. Thats been proven. Cam's play and leadership dictates wins and losses, not the defense.

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That still doesn't mean they played the way they played today because Cam didn't turn it over. To even suggest that, as you did, would be as disingenuous as the Cam haters & trolls have been the past few weeks.

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QB play often does dictate wins and losses, but that has little to do with leadership....which is what I thought the thread was about?

Cam has won games with poor leadership before....

I'm not actually arguing that Cam didn't show leadership today but he needs to keep that poo up and not just 1 game it.

He damn sure didn't inspire the defense though....that's completely laughable.

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That still doesn't mean they played the way they played today because Cam didn't turn it over. To even suggest that, as you did, would be as disingenuous as the Cam haters & trolls have been the past few weeks.

I just credit Cam's play and leadership with the win. I dont think thats disingenuous. He scored 2 TDs had a 100 QB rating. Its not like the guy didnt score and had 110 yards passing. As our leader, he has the biggest impact on our team.

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He damn sure didn't inspire the defense though....that's completely laughable.

So next time he throws a pick in the 2nd half of a game, we're not gonna blame him for the defense wilting at the end of games? Deal? Since he has NOTHING to do with how they play.

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So next time he throws a pick in the 2nd half of a game, we're not gonna blame him for the defense wilting at the end of games? Deal? Since he has NOTHING to do with how they play.

Are we talking pick 6 or what?

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If Cam throws a pick I'm going to blame him for a fuging pick, unless its a tip/drop like Olsen had today....wide open drop...

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