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#31 ShutDwn

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:18 PM

Newton looked exactly the same when I saw him on the field after this win as he did the last five weeks. Towel on his head, blank face.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

Nothing mor sad than when a fanbase falls for the whole "towel on the head" nonsense from the media

#33 King Taharqa

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

People have actually criticized CJ for not playing up to his contract plenty of times, where have you been?

Oh yea selectively race baiting wherever possible.

This just in, NFL teams live and die by their QB play.......who knew?


People have made threads saying CJ has to win games for us? Are you gonna make a "CJ really needs to win against Denver" thread? Him not being worth is contract is not the same as saying "its on CJ to win us games".

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:24 PM

Hey guys, this also just in, KT has figured out that DEs are not called upon to win football games.

You do realize Cam is a QB? He is expected to play the way he did today every game....get it? Expected, as in its not a holiday when he does.
OMG Cam hit a wide open WR, crown him.

#35 King Taharqa

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:27 PM

And Charles Johnson is one of the highest paid DEs in the league. Should we really be jumping up and down when he does his job? Isnt he supposed to create pressure and get sacks? Johnson makes a lot more money than our QB too. Just tell me Fox007 are you putting the honus on Charles Johnson to carry us against Peyton and Foxy? Is Charles Johnson and our D the bread and butter of our team?

#36 King Taharqa

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:30 PM

LEADERSHIP
LEADERSHIP
LEADERSHIP

I put it in the title and have said it 100 times in this thread and still no TonyN sighting. Quick somebody needs to login as him and respond.

#37 Fox007

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:35 PM

And Charles Johnson is one of the highest paid DEs in the league. Should we really be jumping up and down when he does his job? Isnt he supposed to create pressure and get sacks? Johnson makes a lot more money than our QB too. Just tell me Fox007 are you putting the honus on Charles Johnson to carry us against Peyton and Foxy? Is Charles Johnson and our D the bread and butter of our team?



CJs contract falls under the "Hurney Magic" category.

And there is no question that the defense has played better than the offense this year.

The 4th quarter production from the offense has been horrible in most of the games over the last two years.

I really liked the fact that Cam celebrated with the rest of the offense today when he scored, it's still a small sample size of acting the "correct" way.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:36 PM

So basically when we lose, we need to talk about intangibles, but when we win, no need to mention that with a QB like Cam. Gotcha.

You guys want it both ways.


Not trying to feed the rage monster here but, Cam didn't have to carry the team today. The running game was there, and the defense made life hard for Bob. Cam wasn't put in a position to fail, and surprisingly enough we won. He did a great job managing the game and he relied on his teammates. This is our formula. I don't feel the need for Cam to be Brady, Peyton or brees. I just want him to relax and play his game. The kid needs to have fun out there. He's not ready to lead and we all need to understand that. It's unfair to expect it of him.

#39 King Taharqa

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:38 PM

I really liked the fact that Cam celebrated with the rest of the offense today when he scored, it's still a small sample size of acting the "correct" way.


Had he not acted the correct way, we dont win. That defense thats playing so much greater than our offense has carried us to 1 win in 2 years. The other 8 in the Rivera era have been all offense. Including our 30 point performance over the Saints earlier in the season.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:39 PM

I defend Cam, and agree you aren't hearing the same old poo out of trolls, but man you're really reaching when you say he inspired the defense.
Lol.
Kuechly has much more to do with the defense, and leading it, than Cam has ever had.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:40 PM

I'm with you op I was the one that made the cam must win thread so I get it

#42 King Taharqa

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:40 PM

I defend Cam, but man you're really reaching when you say he inspired the defense.
Lol.
Kuechly has much more to do with the defense, and leading it, than Cam has ever had.


Well if Cam throws a pick, chances are our defense doesnt play well and damn sure doesnt win us the game. Thats been proven. Cam's play and leadership dictates wins and losses, not the defense.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:44 PM

That still doesn't mean they played the way they played today because Cam didn't turn it over. To even suggest that, as you did, would be as disingenuous as the Cam haters & trolls have been the past few weeks.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:47 PM

QB play often does dictate wins and losses, but that has little to do with leadership....which is what I thought the thread was about?

Cam has won games with poor leadership before....

I'm not actually arguing that Cam didn't show leadership today but he needs to keep that poo up and not just 1 game it.
He damn sure didn't inspire the defense though....that's completely laughable.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:48 PM

That still doesn't mean they played the way they played today because Cam didn't turn it over. To even suggest that, as you did, would be as disingenuous as the Cam haters & trolls have been the past few weeks.


I just credit Cam's play and leadership with the win. I dont think thats disingenuous. He scored 2 TDs had a 100 QB rating. Its not like the guy didnt score and had 110 yards passing. As our leader, he has the biggest impact on our team.


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