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#11 stirs

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:01 PM

Here is the fix for Nascar.

Less aerodynamics. Take all the crap, splitters, etc out from under the front end.

Make engines smaller. Instead of 353 CI or wherever they are, go to a 300 or so.

No more lucky dog, if Jimmy Johnson hits the wall and goes two laps down, he has to earn his way back to the lead lap.

If you loosen those cars back up, put driver skills on display, make them about 10% slower to let them rub a bit without automatically flying into the wall, it will be a much better product.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:23 PM

^^^

this


I'd rather see them drive 60mph & race each other hard like they did 50 years ago opposed to 43 robots following each other at 200mph. And yes I know they went faster then that back then, just saying that's how bad it is.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:11 PM

I remember the IROC races from the 70's, yes I am that old.

They were the most boring races of all time. A dozen or so of the exact same car with a different number. Needless to say, nobody gave a hoot and they did not last long. Why in the world Nascar would do typically the same thing now is beyond me.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:14 PM

I remember the IROC races from the 70's, yes I am that old.

They were the most boring races of all time. A dozen or so of the exact same car with a different number. Needless to say, nobody gave a hoot and they did not last long. Why in the world Nascar would do typically the same thing now is beyond me.


They ran IROC until 2006 or 07... I never could understand how it lasted so long, except for maybe the draw from having high profile drivers from different series all on one track. Besides, with the Car of Tomorrow I guess that cup racing is pretty much like IROC was.


As for the original topic, how bout a good pit road/garage brawl to try and get ratings for homestead?


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:00 PM

And now more gimmicks from Nascar.

 

The Chase goes from 10 to 12 to 13 and now 16.

 

Soon it will be 24, then 32, then anyone who has won a race or a pole will be included.

 

Gimmicks do not replace racing.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:49 PM

was not a fan of the Chase gimmick from the beginning. I'll be glad when Nascar is done pandering to the northern fans who know nothing of Nascar and it gets back to its roots.

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 02:08 PM

The new format idea is just awful.  The Chase already has an elimination format.  If you suck enough you are eliminated from contention and if you are good enough you have a chance to win going into the finale.  I am not sure at all how they think this improves anything.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 02:56 PM

nascar's biggest problem is it has no real icons and related storylines anymore. people will watch cars go in a circle all day if there's interesting developments and interplaying dynamics between drivers with well-known histories and personalities.

 

right now nascar's best driver is jimmie johnson. jimmie fuging johnson? are you kidding me? jimmie boring-ass johnson is nascar's face. no one really cares anymore and that's one of the reasons why. i stopped following nascar around 2007 after being a huge fan for a decade and i haven't looked back since.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 06:37 PM

Things that hurt Nascar:

Losing Icons like Earnhardt, Waltrip, Allison, etc
Making the cars all the same
Making the cars so fast with aerodynamics that it has ruined the "driving" portion of the racing

Restrictor plates.
Lucky Dog
Moving away from tracks like Rockingham and N Wilkesboro for more cookie cutter tracks like Texas and Chicagoland and Vegas.

All the gimmicks in the world, like the "chase" will not keep fans tuned in. They offer a boring product and will continually have to come up with more gimmicks to have something to talk about.

 

 

Those are the three big ones, I used to watch every weekend, even went to a few races. Now I can't stand to watch, it's way too boring. 

 

 

Something like what the truck series did with the dirt track would be interesting, I say take one of the road courses and cover it in dirt and throw in as a wildcard as the last race of the season. Move another one of the chase races to a smaller track like Rockingham. 



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:18 PM

Aren't there like three major track owners who have all the tracks and that's why they left the Wilkesboros and Rockinghams out in the cold?

 

The schedule is far too long- they should take a lesson from the NFL and realize that less is more. With 30-something races a year, it's not a big event anymore.

 

Where does NASCAR get the balls to actually label a car a Ford, Chevy or Toyota when the only thing different is that brand name and paint job on the body?

 

We lived in Martinsville for 13 years and with my wife as the GM/COO of the private country club I had the opportunity to play golf with a few of the drivers and have dinner others. Some of those guys are very friendly and personable and others are downright fun guys to hang out with. 

 

I'm not a big fan- been to 3 races- and I do think the season needs to end before the NFL regular season starts.

 

And for the record, Michael Waltrip always has a ton of good looking women around him, Richard Petty is bigger than life and Chris Meyers is almost as tall as I am. Rusty Wallace is a really nice guy, Mark Martin is a total gym rat and Dale Jarrett is an outstanding golfer.




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