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#25 Mr. Scot

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:27 PM

Didn't Meeks go from being our DC back to our Secondary coach?


Demotions of assistants happen, but even those are rare. Demotions of head coaches? Pretty much never.

Besides the fact that most guys would be too proud to accept it, doing so saddles a new coach with an existing DC that he may not want. New HCs tend to want to choose their own staff.

As to the question, if the Panthers have a top 5 defense but a losing record, I'd say the current staff stays intact at least at the top. Rivera may want to make a few changes in the assistant ranks.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:32 PM

I honestly want to keep the staff around another year and have wanted to all along. Wouldn't mind a new OC though unless Chud has figured out how to run the offense properly and doesn't go back to the option read crap

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:35 PM

Positions I could see changing - OL Coach, ST Coach

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:36 PM

The rest of the way Rivera is fighting for his life here as the head coach. I wonder if he has something to do with the improvement of our defense...or if the guys are just more motivated then they were before....I'd like to see another offensive guy brought in because Chud to me is just lost in space this season...sorry...dont have time for this Chud...Panthers are moving in a new direction....i think we are finally seeing some identity...a team that plays off emotion and fire....and Chud is into trickery and hocus pocus read option football...not gonna fly around these parts anymore....this team needs a battering ram type offense lead by Cam and our RB's....just punishing defenders and leaving their bloody bodies in a pile of carnage..

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:19 PM

I'm sure he'd loooove to hang around after being demoted/fired.

Yeah. It happens all the time in the NFL.
Edit: didn't see this was addressed second page.
If we get at least 6 wins and a top 5 D, I say keep Rivera another year. Chud has to go, however. He has cost us this season.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:29 PM

Positions I could see changing - OL Coach, ST Coach


Oline coach has been great IMO

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:33 PM

in this economy? job rejection?

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:41 PM

For me any who, Rivera is headed in the right direction. I just happen to think he was being to timid. Trying not to make mistakes instead of being himself. Second guessing himself just wasn't working. If he keeps improving, he will be just fine.

I did not see this defense coming I will admit. Most were just hoping it could keep us in the game. Not allow us to win the games. Nice turnaround.

I have been saying for a while. Someone needed to get Chud back to OC not fantasy. If we run a big boy offense we can be a good football team.

We were excited about the future when the season started. That did not last long for some folks. After the last few weeks folks are starting to see a real football team. So for me. I don't neccessarily believe our new GM will automatially fire Rivera. If we continue to improve he will be safe. If we struggle, he could be in trouble. But there are a lot of factors in play.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:52 PM

Oline coach has been great IMO


Disagree, though I'll admit personnel could be as big an issue as coaching in that area.

Wouldn't mind having Juan Castillo on board. And if Andy Reid is out in Philly, Bobby April likely comes available too.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:54 PM

Got off on a tangent before I even got started. All this quiet up in here has me confusioned.

At this time, right now, as in today. Chud, in my mind, is the only one that needs to be taken into the office and have a talking to. I understand that our Oline is in flux. But you don't need a great Oline to run a big boy offense. Especially with Cam as the center piece.

Not every running play is a big gainer. But you still have to stick with it which DWill proved. We still scare people with our rushing attack. Use that fear against them like we have been doing. A lot more 2 TE sets. Actual running plays, More slants and crossing routes. And still had the ability to go deep without any repurcussions. So our line is doing their job.

I agree with the sentiment that Chud has costs us too much this year. And unless he gets his butt outta whatever butt it's up. He should be replaced.

Back to back rants. The wife just went to bed so I guess I have all this pent up wordage I don't normally get to use.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 12:10 AM

Please, can we end this fantasy of him agreeing to be OUR dc? Jeebus.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:27 PM

If we end up with a top 5 defense and a losing record then Ron should be kept and Chud should be gone!