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#1 Mother Grabber

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:02 PM

Word on the street is that JR didn't want RR to begin with, and the team got off too a terrible start. Likely, the late losses to ATL and CHI are going to be too much to overcome for the playoffs this year. So, it's still quite likely that RR will get canned at the end of this year. After all, it's JR's team and he gets what he wants.

However, the D has made a dramatic turnaround in just this second year (and only half way through that). They are a top 10 D without 52 and 20, who were the consensus two best players on our D coming into the year. Our secondary is a whole bunch of 'who?' type players, and we have Morgan Freeman and BB King playing in the middle of the line. Yet, the D is playing extremely well and it's not a fluke. The staff has done a hell of a job coaching up the D to be a fantastic unit. RR has a history of making a great defense out of unknowns, and he's done it again.

Is the development of the D enough to keep RR around? Is it enough for you to want him to stay as our HC? Our D is fun to watch again. Imagine how nasty they will be with just a couple of upgrades in the secondary. Personally, I'd be happy with keeping RR and getting a new OC who's not too smart for his own good. I'm a little skittish to think of what happens to this great new D they've built if he goes.

Pie?

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:04 PM

Well I guess it's a risk we'll have to take.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:07 PM

If we keep going in the direction we have been with the D improving and the offense doing more traditional power running etc and we win some damn games to close the second half of the season I would like to keep the coaching staff.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:10 PM

Rivera will likely be brought back if the team keeps playing like this. Said it once, I hate to see it but his players for whatever reason is playing hard for the guy. But I believe if he go 6-10 again or less, he won't be back.

#5 Matthias

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:14 PM

If Rivera comes back next year, we need to have him on the hot seat starting game one next year. It seems he actually coaches when he got his back against the wall.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:18 PM

You have to let the season play out with Ron. There is promise, although with a total collapse this year I doubt he returns. Get back to 6-10, and he may have done enough. Shall have to wait and see.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:26 PM

You have to let the season play out with Ron. There is promise, although with a total collapse this year I doubt he returns. Get back to 6-10, and he may have done enough. Shall have to wait and see.


Hope he gets to 6-10 and stays around for another season, to see if we can pull off 6-10 three years in a row. That type of consistent below average performance is what defines this franchise.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:29 PM

Hope he gets to 6-10 and stays around for another season, to see if we can pull off 6-10 three years in a row. That type of consistent below average performance is what defines this franchise.

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If I was JR, Ron has to get to 8-8. Just saying. One could argue a lot of reasons for Ron staying even with 6-10.

This season is ridiculous anyways.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:35 PM

Seeing our D playing well and being well coached is such a breath of fresh air. We've been starved to see a well coached part of our team for so long, I hate to see it go so quickly.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:37 PM

prolly should have put this in the Top 5 D thread. Sorry about that. Too busy surfing porn and was a little distracted.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:38 PM

How about we just keep McDermott as the DC.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:42 PM

Firing RR would be a mistake.. Year 3 is the decider. But new a GM will probally make a move. With the Dline playing better than any time in the last 5 years Im excited for the rest of this season and see where we stand as a unit.

As long as there is no regression and the team plays hard Rivera deserves to play it out. Chud is the main one who needed to make serious adjustments and Deangelo just did the Ill wait till week 6 to start playing attitude .. Which he has done last few years.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:55 PM

I don't actually buy the story that Richardson didn't sign off on Rivera. Doesn't make much sense.

If the team keeps playing like they have been, I think Rivera stays.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:44 AM

Based on what the D has done and if we can close the season strong, I might be tempted to give RR one more year. But the catch is, I'd let Chud go and bring in a new OC that had sufficient experience that he could serve as an interim HC should the team start off slow again next year.

Our problem this year is we couldn't have fired RR had Jerry wanted to, as there was no good candidate on the staff to serve as an interim.

Keep RR's feet to the fire. I love the D, but the O and the game management have to improve.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

Defense is playing well, got it. 4 weeks seems to be a decent gauge but for me I want to see where we stand as a defense as a whole. Game 1 to 16.


Rivera has made some really bad decisions but he is also a newbie Head Coach. Though he has said he backs his decisions. I would bet if he had the opportunity to do it over he would have done it differently.


I am of the belief that McDermott has as much to do with the defense as Rivera. Firing Rivera and Keeping McDermott would be OK with me.




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