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What I've Learned From This Election

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You act like such a kid.

This has nothing to do with Dems or Repubs. Just that with age, your outlooks tend to change. Take a deep breath and use your head instead of your emotions for once. Goodness.

Look, before you get on me about being an ideologue who hates Republicans I want you to know that I was a registered Republican until 2008, now I am unaffiliated with a party. i voted for Dole, and Bush 2x. I also voted for Pat McCrory in 2008 and again on Tuesday. I also think that Reagan is the best president in the modern era.

Admittedly I voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 but I am not an ideologue who blindly follows any party.

But I am moving further and further away from the Republican party because they are simply detached from reality.

They no longer believe in actual data and facts. It is no longer a "liberal media" they now think there is a liberal bias in facts and data

The Karl Rove sh!t show on Fox on election night over Ohio is a microcosm of the Republican bubble that is too far detached from reality

Saying things like:

The public polls are skewed for Obama

Obama fudges the BLS unemployment numbers

The Tax Policy center is wrong and liberal

The CBO is wrong

Ohio isn't over.

The congressional research department's "Taxes and the Economy: An Economic Analysis of the Top Tax Rates Since 1945" is wrong

It is fugging ridiculous. But Republican constituents believe this crap because they live in the world of talk radio and Fox News. I want to be a moderate conservative but the Republicans call me a RINO and I have no place in their party.

It is frustrating and frankly republicans appear petty and stupid these days.

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Just perception, eh?

You ever heard of the southern strategy?

Did you even read the part of my post you quoted?

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no why

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Look, before you get on me about being an ideologue who hates Republicans I want you to know that I was a registered Republican until 2008, now I am unaffiliated with a party. i voted for Dole, and Bush 2x. I also voted for Pat McCrory in 2008 and again on Tuesday. I also think that Reagan is the best president in the modern era.

Admittedly I voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 but I am not an ideologue who blindly follows any party.

But I am moving further and further away from the Republican party because they are simply detached from reality.

They no longer believe in actual data and facts. It is no longer a "liberal media" they now think there is a liberal bias in facts and data

The Karl Rove sh!t show on Fox on election night over Ohio is a microcosm of the Republican bubble that is too far detached from reality

Saying things like:

The public polls are skewed for Obama

Obama fudges the BLS unemployment numbers

The Tax Policy center is wrong and liberal

The CBO is wrong

Ohio isn't over.

The congressional research department's "Taxes and the Economy: An Economic Analysis of the Top Tax Rates Since 1945" is wrong

It is fugging ridiculous. But Republican constituents believe this crap because they live in the world of talk radio and Fox News. I want to be a moderate conservative but the Republicans call me a RINO and I have no place in their party.

It is frustrating and frankly republicans appear petty and stupid these days.

Sounds like you operate on the surface on many issues, most of them small. Who cares that Karl Rove's info did not match someone elses info? You vote based on that kind of stuff? Do you have core values? What are they? I am not sure I know one person who thinks Reagan is the greatest but voted for Obama twice.

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no why

No point in discussing it if you're going to ask me a question without having read what I actually said.

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Sounds like you operate on the surface on many issues, most of them small. Who cares that Karl Rove's info did not match someone elses info? You vote based on that kind of stuff? Do you have core values? What are they? I am not sure I know one person who thinks Reagan is the greatest but voted for Obama twice.

Karl Rove's info was the exact same as everyone else's info. That is why Fox News, CBS, AP, NBC, and ABC had all called Ohio.

And I guess you feel like the national deficit and our growing debt is "small". Because if you refuse to believe factual data you will never fix the budget problems. And quite frankly, the main reason I didn't vote for Romney is because his tax plans was as irresponsible of a plan for this moment in time as I have ever seen.

Think about this. In the very limited details he provided for his 20% tax cut across the board tax plan he was convinced that cutting income tax across the board would create more jobs and grow the economy, which would increase tax revenue by broadening the tax base. There is little to no evidence that tax policy has any effect on economic growth one way or the other. but as we now know Republicans do not deal in facts.

So what would have happened is that he would have created ANOTHER 5 trillion dollars in debt with no way to pay for it. It would have been an absolute calamity. It would destroy our infrastructure, raised taxes on the middle class, and made us even more beholden to China.

Now if that is small I apologize, maybe I should just be a bigger issue guy and vote because I think minorities consider themselves victims and are too lazy to get jobs. You know, detached from reality.

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So you voted for a guy who has "actually added" 6 trillion in debt rather than a guy whom Obama said might add 5 trillion in debt.

Yep, I see your point

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"It's the economy stupid" line has run its course.

That only applies to republicans since democrats are handicapped in this regard. See California.

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"It's the economy stupid" line has run its course.

That only applies to republicans since democrats are handicapped in this regard. See California.

the state with a republican governor that oversaw that calamity? don't hit yourself in the face while you flail.

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So you voted for a guy who has "actually added" 6 trillion in debt rather than a guy whom Obama said might add 5 trillion in debt.

Yep, I see your point

You do realize that the deficit was 200 billion dollars smaller in 2012 than it was in 2011. the deficit has been getting smaller, not larger.

As far as the overall debt the last 4 years, having to bail out banks, save an economy, save an auto industry, and fight two wars are the main culprits for that massive debt added and none of those things were the doing of Obama it was the undoing of those things by Obama that are causing the deficit to come back down.

Also, the Simpson-Bowles plan could already be passed. The Republicans on that committee were for it. Then when Obama also supported it, magically the 7 Republicans suddenly rejected it. Wonder why? They were on the committee that passed it. Because their obstruction of Obama was more important than the health of our country.

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