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#157 Delhommey

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:24 AM

And right on que, Dehommey comes in to contribute an insult. Glad we have you around to further all conversations.


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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

There is an old saying

If you are not liberal before you are 30, then you have no heart, if you are still liberal after 30, then you have no head.


To be fair there is a reason this is an old saying, it is because it comes from a time when Republicans were ACTUAL fiscal conservatives and it was before the Tea Party and Fox News drew the party to the looney bin forcing Republicans to become detached with reality.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

And plus that's Winston Churchill referring to the early/mid-20th century British political atmosphere

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:50 AM

To be fair there is a reason this is an old saying, it is because it comes from a time when Republicans were ACTUAL fiscal conservatives and it was before the Tea Party and Fox News drew the party to the looney bin forcing Republicans to become detached with reality.


You act like such a kid.

This has nothing to do with Dems or Repubs. Just that with age, your outlooks tend to change. Take a deep breath and use your head instead of your emotions for once. Goodness.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

I think the Republicans and Democrats should get a divorce, and its high time mom (the Democrats) start seeing someone else. There's this guy named Libertarian who I think would treat her right.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:53 AM

Liberalism is a mental disease...and as Jesse Jackson Jr. proved it...a mental hospital stay doesn't keep you from being elected.


Or getting arrested for dealing (Marion Berry)

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:55 PM

"The Republican Party hasn't done a great job, and should be ashamed of itself, for not going after all Americans," Gidley said. "We can't take any one group for granted and need to look for ways to appeal to black and Latino voters."

-Republican political observer, J. Hogan Gidley

"This race wasn't a problem of candidate, it was a problem of fit,"..."The GOP no longer fits the modern electorate. We have fundamental issues with Latinos, young voters and women"
-Stated by Anonymous GOP Strategist to "The Note"

Straight from the horses mouth. Perception is reality; the perception is that the Republican party is against minorities and women. Whether or not that is true doesn't matter because that is the perception. Change or go extinct.


To be fair, the Democratic Party also didn't go "after all Americans" either ...

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:57 PM

Perception is a huge issue. Just like that thing with the NYC marathon in the aftermath of Sandy. Would it have actually taken services and priority over the victims of the storm, probably not, or at least not much... but the perception was that it was, so it was a PR nightmare and they cancelled it.

Americans have constantly been told by the media that Republicans hate minorities and the poor so that view tends to stick... then with some republican policies and idiots like that guy with his "legitimate rape" comments, that kind of thing is perpetuated.


Just perception, eh?

You ever heard of the southern strategy?

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:24 PM

You act like such a kid.

This has nothing to do with Dems or Repubs. Just that with age, your outlooks tend to change. Take a deep breath and use your head instead of your emotions for once. Goodness.


Look, before you get on me about being an ideologue who hates Republicans I want you to know that I was a registered Republican until 2008, now I am unaffiliated with a party. i voted for Dole, and Bush 2x. I also voted for Pat McCrory in 2008 and again on Tuesday. I also think that Reagan is the best president in the modern era.

Admittedly I voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 but I am not an ideologue who blindly follows any party.

But I am moving further and further away from the Republican party because they are simply detached from reality.

They no longer believe in actual data and facts. It is no longer a "liberal media" they now think there is a liberal bias in facts and data

The Karl Rove sh!t show on Fox on election night over Ohio is a microcosm of the Republican bubble that is too far detached from reality

Saying things like:

The public polls are skewed for Obama

Obama fudges the BLS unemployment numbers

The Tax Policy center is wrong and liberal

The CBO is wrong

Ohio isn't over.

The congressional research department's "Taxes and the Economy: An Economic Analysis of the Top Tax Rates Since 1945" is wrong

It is fugging ridiculous. But Republican constituents believe this crap because they live in the world of talk radio and Fox News. I want to be a moderate conservative but the Republicans call me a RINO and I have no place in their party.

It is frustrating and frankly republicans appear petty and stupid these days.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:31 PM

Just perception, eh?

You ever heard of the southern strategy?


Did you even read the part of my post you quoted?

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:32 PM

no why

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:33 PM

Look, before you get on me about being an ideologue who hates Republicans I want you to know that I was a registered Republican until 2008, now I am unaffiliated with a party. i voted for Dole, and Bush 2x. I also voted for Pat McCrory in 2008 and again on Tuesday. I also think that Reagan is the best president in the modern era.

Admittedly I voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 but I am not an ideologue who blindly follows any party.

But I am moving further and further away from the Republican party because they are simply detached from reality.

They no longer believe in actual data and facts. It is no longer a "liberal media" they now think there is a liberal bias in facts and data

The Karl Rove sh!t show on Fox on election night over Ohio is a microcosm of the Republican bubble that is too far detached from reality

Saying things like:

The public polls are skewed for Obama

Obama fudges the BLS unemployment numbers

The Tax Policy center is wrong and liberal

The CBO is wrong

Ohio isn't over.

The congressional research department's "Taxes and the Economy: An Economic Analysis of the Top Tax Rates Since 1945" is wrong

It is fugging ridiculous. But Republican constituents believe this crap because they live in the world of talk radio and Fox News. I want to be a moderate conservative but the Republicans call me a RINO and I have no place in their party.

It is frustrating and frankly republicans appear petty and stupid these days.


Sounds like you operate on the surface on many issues, most of them small. Who cares that Karl Rove's info did not match someone elses info? You vote based on that kind of stuff? Do you have core values? What are they? I am not sure I know one person who thinks Reagan is the greatest but voted for Obama twice.