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Welcome. As for Cam we didn't run the read option nearly as often last year as we did to start this year. I think the OC out thought himself in terms of staying ahead of D's based on the success we had last season. I do want to see Cam used as a regular passing QB who can also kill you with the run. His fundamentals and mechanics look off, but I can't pick out what it is. As a result he's less accurate than last year.

That's what I'm saying man! Last year he was looking good with less read option. I didn't understand why the Panthers' OC didn't want to build on that instead of trying to outsmart everyone with a gimmick. I don't watch the Panthers anywhere near the amount you guys do but I just felt like all this read option stuff this year was hindering Cam's development. The 3rd year is when QBs start to put things together and whoever your OC is could have been delaying that development.

Now all of a sudden when you guys played with a more traditional offense against the Redskins, the Panthers looked ALOT better.

They need to get that man some help though. Steve Smith and Greg Olsen seem to be beasting it up but Cam needs more options to go to than just those two guys. Steve Smith can't play forever, although he looks like he'll be fast forever lol.

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Eight games into his first season as Broncos defensive coordinator and Jack Del Rio has been anything but bashful about using the full Denver depth chart.

As a result, the Broncos, at least according to some offensive coaches around the league, take a little more time to review because of the numerous personnel groupings Del Rio has used already this season. Sunday, the Broncos even dropped a formation that included seven defensive backs on the Bengals.

That look — with the Broncos moving around the line of scrimmage, players seemingly at every angle — resulted, over three consecutive plays in the fourth quarter, in a false start penalty, a holding penalty on Bengals center Jeff Faine, and Champ Bailey's interception.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_21933562/broncos-jack-del-rio-using-full-depth-chart

This is what has most of us Broncos fans excited about the defense. Every game is like a guess game when trying to find Von Miller on the field.

I don't want anybody to take this the wrong way (my posting of the article). Just talking some football. Not trying to seem like I'm bragging about the team or anything like that.

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Well, most people here blame the OC for most of our offensive woes, myself included. It just messes with timing, making OL hold blocks longer, RB's wait on Cam's decision, etc.

Brandon LaFell stepped up last season and has had some good games this season, but he's neither the mismatch Olsen is or the explosive threat Smith is. Most people here want to go ahead and draft a top flight WR in April in what looks to be a talent rich pool from which to pick. We will see David Gettis this week after missing all last season and the first 8 weeks of this season. He's a speedster who, as a 6th round pick, outperformed LaFell with Jimmy "the joke" Clausen as QB his rookie year. I'm holding out hope for him, but Cam has to make sure he goes through his reads and doesn't just lock onto his primary.

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http://www.denverpos...ull-depth-chart

This is what has most of us Broncos fans excited about the defense. Every game is like a guess game when trying to find Von Miller on the field.

I don't want anybody to take this the wrong way (my posting of the article). Just talking some football. Not trying to seem like I'm bragging about the team or anything like that.

If we had Miller we'd be bragging, it's all good.

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So what's going on with the Panthers' defense. I know Luke is a beast and that rookie CB you guys have seems to be doing pretty well for a 1st year player. If he keeps playing like that he will be a total steal. The Broncos have 2 CBs that went undrafted and have turned out to be some total gems so far (Chris Harris & Tony Carter) to go along with the timeless Champ Bailey.

How is the Panthers' secondary. I haven't watched alot of Panther's this season but they havent seemed too bad except for that safety, Nakawhatshisname.

We've got some pretty big receivers and I think it would be an interesting match up to your secondary.

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They mentioned with the 5 sacks last week, Denver was tied for 6th in the league with 24 sacks. What they didn't mention was that they are tied for 6th with the Panthers who also have 24 sacks. Compare that with 2011 where we had 31 for the whole year. This year we have 24 in half a season and I think we are going to get better.

This should be a good battle.

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Honestly, I could see both QBs being harrassed equally Sundsy.

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Honestly, I could see both QBs being harrassed equally Sundsy.

It is hard to sack Manning. He will throw it away or chuck it whenever he feels any pressure. What you hope is to influence his throws, make him throw before he wants to, disguise coverages so he throws into double coverage. You have to mess with his head. That means not playing typical coverages and staying in them. Atlanta did a great job confusing him and won as a result. This year he has been willing to throw picks because he doesn't want to get hit.

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They mentioned with the 5 sacks last week, Denver was tied for 6th in the league with 24 sacks. What they didn't mention was that they are tied for 6th with the Panthers who also have 24 sacks. Compare that with 2011 where we had 31 for the whole year. This year we have 24 in half a season and I think we are going to get better.

This should be a good battle.

I have to admit, 24 sacks at the half way mark is a huge improvement over 31 in the entire 2011 season.

The Broncos ended the season with 41 sacks in 2011 so the jury is still out on improvement in that area.

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I have to admit, 24 sacks at the half way mark is a huge improvement over 31 in the entire 2011 season.

The Broncos ended the season with 41 sacks in 2011 so the jury is still out on improvement in that area.

We had so many injuries last year we really sucked balls on defense. This is the defense we expected to see last year and it is only starting to look good. With Gamble, our best corner, on IR and Josh Norman being a rookie, our secondary has had growing pains but is actually starting to look decent. Captain Munnerlyn is a real scrapper and plays physical man coverage but at 5-8 he is too short to play the big physical receiver. We are one good corner away from being a decent team on defense. We will see on Sunday if we get exposed or come to play.

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Is it still Foxy's MO for his teams to get shitted on completely by tight ends? If so, Olsen should go off this game.

Edit: wow. I didn't know JDR was their d coordinator. Holy sloppy fuging seconds retread coaching staff batman.

Broncos fans: good luck with that when the greatest QB of all time doesn't fall into your lap and fox&co have to draft and develop one.

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Is it still Foxy's MO for his teams to get shitted on completely by tight ends? If so, Olsen should go off this game.

Edit: wow. I didn't know JDR was their d coordinator. Holy sloppy fuging seconds retread coaching staff batman.

Broncos fans: good luck with that when the greatest QB of all time doesn't fall into your lap and fox&co have to draft and develop one.

We already drafted one. Brock Osweiler. I'm not sure Fox had much to do with that one considering the say-so that John Elway has. I'm not sure what that guy will turn in to but he can't be worse than The Golden Calf of Bristol especially sitting behind Peyton for however many years and Elway and Co. helping to develop him.

As far as the TEs go, they are definitely a weakness but given the caliber of the TEs we have played, I can't be too upset ( Health Miller, Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham, and freaking Gronkowski).

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