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#25 thefuzz

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:18 PM

it's not a problem unless you consider discrimination a "state's right."


Any state could also say that there is no such thing at marriage.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:23 PM

Any state could also say that there is no such thing at marriage.


i don't understand how this refutes my statement.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:23 PM

This is a major problem with libs. Give the governing power to the states, and be done with it.


Let folks who hate gays move to arkansas, and those who love it move to florida.


That is a major problem with libs (libertarians). States are just as bad or worse than federal, and big states does not = small government. Local government has less accountability (because it's less visible) and is far more likely to be tyrannical. You also take all humanity and life out of the equation by simply saying "move to another state," as if it's as simple as that. That's asking people to break up families and neighbors by idealogical lines.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:25 PM

I bet they would figure it out really quickly.

Oil and Trade through the river could be a huge boom for them.


if we lived in the 1800s...

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:25 PM

They could also make a lot of money from bayonnet production.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:27 PM

thankfully THE MARINE CORPS STILL USES BAYONETS!

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:28 PM

You guys wonder why no one takes you seriously, but a big reason is your only counterargument tends to be "Nuh uh".

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:29 PM

So model ourselves like the EU and let Mississippi become our version of Greece? Sounds like a fantastic idea.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:48 PM

You guys wonder why no one takes you seriously, but a big reason is your only counterargument tends to be "Nuh uh".



I am not saying that these things are going to happen, nor should they. They are thoughts that run through my mind when looking at how bloated our federal government has become.

Yes, I understand that some states would fare better than others. IMO it would start making people more accountable for their success and failures.

Most hate that idea.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:53 PM

I don't really have any facts or figures to back up my idea but the only reason people would be against it is because they hate accountability.

FACT

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:56 PM

Cool. Let it go broke, or, you know figure out how to make it work.

Why would they change if they can remain the same?

You can't just figure out how to make it work. If you have no money you have no money.

Goods cost the same to the people of Mississippi as it does everywhere else. If you have no money you have no money. You can't repair roads or pay teachers a fair wage.

If you have crappy infrastructure and education good luck ever getting anyone to invest in your state. Instead, the people that have the means to leave will leave and those that don't will be stuck and things will just continue to get worse because those that actually do have money will be gone.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:07 PM

I don't really have any facts or figures to back up my idea but the only reason people would be against it is because they hate accountability.

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I think that you and I can both agree that Americans as a whole are less accountable for their actions than 10, 20, 100+ years ago.

Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. I don't have to show graphs and pie charts to make my point.