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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1352385717' post='1987527']
I am hoping against hope that we do not pick top ten year after year. We did very well with keek, if the no 1 LT is there, I think you take him.

Star is likely to be gone top three. Who knows, this time last year Alshon Jeffries was top 5 and you see where he went.
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Top4 worst record ATM are: KC, Jags, Cleveland and then us. Any of the three before us seem to have a need at DT? Maybe Jags but what if they decided they wanna take a Geno or Barkley? Or maybe a Pass rusher which the lack? KC will take a QB no doubt. And Cleveland who just took Phil Taylor last year wouldn't be seen reasonable to spend another 1st rd on a DT. I think Cleveland will go Jarvis or a WR.

I wouldn't take a no.1 OT if he's the BPA. No need for a OT and at this point will not fill no holes but only add depth to a certain position. If Jockel is there, in a perfect scenerio, someone trades up for him and we add extra picks.

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Cleveland been taken over by Philly guys.

Who knows.

I don't think we will be picking 4th, point I made earlier. Probably 8-10 again

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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1352387557' post='1987547']
Cleveland been taken over by Philly guys.

Who knows.

I don't think we will be picking 4th, point I made earlier. Probably 8-10 again
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Top10 worst team:
KC, Jags, Cleveland, PANTHERS, Washington, Tennessee, Rams, Philly, Oakland, Jets.

Tennessee, Oakland and maybe Jets are candidates for a DT. Tennessee may go DE (Montgomery/Werner), Oakland should take DT but may go with Milliner. Jets may go Jockel or another WR.

If we land a top10, Star and Hankins, one of them will fall to us.

Remember, last year Brockers, Poe and Cox were ranked fairley high. All three fell of top10
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As long as it is a trench guy, I am good

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DT stocks seemed to have drop significantly in the draft bc it's believe that this is a "passing league" now. And people thinks that you don't need that big DT who can stuff the run bc teams don't run anymore.

No DT was drafted in the top10 this year. In 2011, Dareus was taken no.3 but Fairley fell to no.13. Even though Star and Hankins are projected very high, I don't think they're as highly regarded as like Suh and McCoy when the two of them came out. Star and Hankins are run stuffers and will rarely will you the rush from inside. Teams want the 3tech guys these days unlike the past where teams take a NT to stuff the runs.

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This is why I'm thinking that Milliner or another DE wouldn't be a bad pick. I wish there was a stud safety, but not this year.

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This is why I'm thinking that Milliner or another DE wouldn't be a bad pick. I wish there was a stud safety, but not this year.
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You would really take a Milliner or a DE like Montgomery over Star or Hankins? Take Mingo away bc I see him as a 34 OLB. I wouldn't.

I think the best DE in this class is Werner but that's me. Montgomery will be good but will probably take him time to make the transition unlike Werner. And for Milliner, I think he's very overrated bc of the cb class this year unlike previous years. Amerson was supposed to be the clear cut no.1 but has fall off significantly and that's why Milliner seen his stock rised so quickly. In a good draft like last year, I see Milliner behind Mo and Kirk and maybe even Janoris. I don't think Milliner is near as good as Kirkpatrick.

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[quote name='carolina-chuck' timestamp='1352383885' post='1987504']


Yea and I know he's a bust, traded him to Jets for Wayne Hunter. Saying even if he still became pretty productive, Rams are still not a contender. You can't win bc of a Franchise LT. You're only pushing yourself back. A game changer is a DT or WR (excluding QB) compared to a LT. It'll be nice to have one, but not a need.
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I agree. I have been saying d line all year long. The one position that can affect EVERY play. If we get that Star guy I'll be ecstatic. He looks like the next Kevin Williams. Hankins would be nice too

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I'm saying the way the league is that I'd consider a stud DE or Milliner. I think Star is going to be gone for sure by the time we pick. I think Hankins is an excellent option and an obvious need. I also think Damontre Moore is an option and has had a great year. I haven't seen Werner play, but he seems to be a bigtime prospect as well.

I think Milliner is a top 10 -top 15 pick for sure.

As good as the DT class is would it be worth getting an impact DE in the first and seeing if a guy like Jesse Williams from Bama or Floyd from Florida is available in the second.

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DE is waaaaaay down the list of needs.

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I have no clue whatsoever as to why people are still screaming for a DT in the first. Anywhere after the 1st, hell yeah. D-line and Linebackers have been the only strong points this year, surprisingly. We need a WR; we can't bank on Smitty like we've done the past 5 years.

No more WR's with good hands but slow speed.

No more WR's that are taken late in the draft, with promise.

We need a no bull shyt 1st round WR. Smith is just a second away from either retiring or spazzing out and knocking off Josh Norman's head. We can't live with him being the only source any more. Ever since Moose left, we've been relying on one guy. We haven't drafted a got damn WR in the 1st in 15 years! *that bytch raena carruth doesn't count*

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[quote name='mvp2011' timestamp='1352390933' post='1987633']

I agree. I have been saying d line all year long. The one position that can affect EVERY play. If we get that Star guy I'll be ecstatic. He looks like the next Kevin Williams. Hankins would be nice too
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Yup I agree that DT is the way to go unless we're unfortunate to land Star or Hankins.

But if you want Kevin Williams, you'd probably need to look at Kawan Short instead. Two are comparable.

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