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#31 FurdTurgason

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:48 AM

Don't tell them that. They think Obama wiped the floor with McCain, even though McCain said the best answer to the economic problem was a spending freeze and Obama said five minutes later that we need to rebuild the Georgian economy.

If Abraham Lincoln ran today, he'd never win the Dem nomination because women would never go for him. It's all about a man's look, whether they admit it or not.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:51 AM

Rubio, Jindal, Christie

My stepbrother works in state politics in Florida. Republican. He's been telling me for two months that the election was over and Romney had zero chance. Even after the first debate. He speaks glowingly of those three.


Rubio is nothing more than Pat Robertson as a young latino. I know he has hype around him, but once people see how far right he is, he's going nowhere.

The other two are decent. Though I can't imagine our society will elect a giant fatty any time soon.


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:55 AM

If Abraham Lincoln ran today, he'd never win the Dem nomination because women would never go for him. It's all about a man's look, whether they admit it or not.


Really? Put a beard on John Kerry and he is Lincoln's freaking twin.

Saying it's about looks is rich coming from the party who just nominated Generic Handsome Template Male #132.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:59 AM

i'm pretty sure howard dean sunk himself and not the media, but i wore giant red elephant glasses during the 2004 election so the objectivity of my memory is probably suspect

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:01 AM

Really? Put a beard on John Kerry and he is Lincoln's freaking twin.

Saying it's about looks is rich coming from the party who just nominated Generic Handsome Template Male #132.



Kerry couldn't even beat Bush.

Kennedy beat Nixon. Why? The women vote.

Clinton beat Dole. Why? The women vote.

Obama beat McCain. Why? The women vote.

Not saying anything about how each man did as president, just pointing out that the three men on the right all had physical limitations or were going up against younger, more virile opponents, and the female vote did them in. Honest Abe wouldn't stand a chance.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:03 AM

i'm pretty sure howard dean sunk himself and not the media, but i wore giant red elephant glasses during the 2004 election so the objectivity of my memory is probably suspect



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#37 Kevin Greene

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:07 AM

Really? Put a beard on John Kerry and he is Lincoln's freaking twin.

Saying it's about looks is rich coming from the party who just nominated Generic Handsome Template Male #132.


Didn't Obama get like 96% of the Black female vote?
Me thinks they thought he was a hottie.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:11 AM

Didn't Obama get like 96% of the Black female vote?
Me thinks they thought he was a hottie.

Every democrat gets over 90% of the black female vote.

Remnant of the Southern Strategy they're gonna have to live with for a long time.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:12 AM

i'm pretty sure howard dean sunk himself and not the media, but i wore giant red elephant glasses during the 2004 election so the objectivity of my memory is probably suspect

That single scream clip is what sunk him. If the media didn't make a fuss out of it, nobody would have noticed and things may have been very different. He was in the lead at that point and was gaining major steam, basically the father of the modern 'progressive' movement.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:14 AM

Every democrat gets over 90% of the black female vote.



That's always your stock answer, but there's something you always leave out.

Double or triple the turnout for Obama. Big difference.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:15 AM

That single scream clip is what sunk him. If the media didn't make a fuss out of it, nobody would have noticed and things may have been very different. He was in the lead at that point and was gaining major steam, basically the father of the modern 'progressive' movement.



He had two first names. NEVER trust a man with two first names.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:15 AM

That's always your stock answer, but there's something you always leave out.

Double or triple the turnout for Obama. Big difference.

Well then address the turnout instead of the % and it won't be my answer

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:16 AM

He had two first names. NEVER trust a man with two first names.


I tried to come up with a comeback about the name Mitt Romney but I couldn't, it's just a great, normal name.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:23 AM

That single scream clip is what sunk him. If the media didn't make a fuss out of it, nobody would have noticed and things may have been very different. He was in the lead at that point and was gaining major steam, basically the father of the modern 'progressive' movement.

That's always your stock answer, but there's something you always leave out.

Double or triple the turnout for Obama. Big difference.


Both true, but 96% is pretty good.
Even Al Gore got 90% of the Black vote.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:24 AM

Well then address the turnout instead of the % and it won't be my answer


We have. You guys just put your hands over your ears and call us racists.


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