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#166 Kevin Greene

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:51 PM

Agreed, Lakers are done.
Howard went out again with a bum shoulder.
This after the big team meeting today and everyone saying how things are going to change.

Antonni simply has no clue how to make this roster work, the players are pissed off and it's probably going to get real ugly real soon.

Should be an interesting 2nd half of the season to watch as the Lake Show plunges into the Draft Lottery.

But apparently they wont get the pick!

http://articles.lati...tected-20121210

Aint much Blue Sky in Lala land.

I hope Jim Buss is having a good time, he's created this mess.
Maybe he'll have a good time watching CP3 kicking ass in the Playoffs and dream about what might have been....,,



I mean if Dr. Buss was still running the Lakers and Phil was on the bench,

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:32 PM

I can't figure this fugging team out. I am not a big Kobe fan, but I am a casual fan of the Lakers and these guys plain suck. I thought they may struggle a little early as the all got acquainted with on another. But I don't think I have ever seen a team put together 2 MVPs, probably the best center in basketball, the most skilled post player in the NBA, and MWP who is an all-star. And just flat suck.

Struggle yes. Being around 4th or 5th in the Western Conference is where I saw this team at worst by this point. But they aren't struggling, they are terrible.

If they don't start winning and winning soon, they shouldn't just trade one guy, they need to become wholesale sellers. Sh!t maybe even trade Kobe at this point.

They have mortgaged their future on this team and traded away several of their draft picks over the next few years to put this team together. If they hang on too long they will become irrelevant for several seasons in the post Kobe life, much like they did in the years following Magic's retirement.

The scary thing is, outside of Kobe, Dwight Howard may be the only real valuable tradeable asset the Lakers have.

What a fugging mess.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:37 PM

By the way, Dwight's shoulder injury tonight was the biggest bunch of BS. That is a guy trying to get the fug out of there. 10-1 he is faking.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:41 PM

By the way, Dwight's shoulder injury tonight was the biggest bunch of BS. That is a guy trying to get the fug out of there. 10-1 he is faking.



I hesitated to say anything but since you went there I do think Howard is a mental case at this point.
All the back and forth crap in Orlando last season and now this year.
And I thought Metta was a looney..........

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:31 AM

Just sad... Kobe is the only one that has pulled his weight all season. I feel bad for Kobe that he has to play with this joke of a team.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:38 AM

I can't figure this fugging team out. I am not a big Kobe fan, but I am a casual fan of the Lakers and these guys plain suck. I thought they may struggle a little early as the all got acquainted with on another. But I don't think I have ever seen a team put together 2 MVPs, probably the best center in basketball, the most skilled post player in the NBA, and MWP who is an all-star. And just flat suck.

Struggle yes. Being around 4th or 5th in the Western Conference is where I saw this team at worst by this point. But they aren't struggling, they are terrible.

If they don't start winning and winning soon, they shouldn't just trade one guy, they need to become wholesale sellers. Sh!t maybe even trade Kobe at this point.

They have mortgaged their future on this team and traded away several of their draft picks over the next few years to put this team together. If they hang on too long they will become irrelevant for several seasons in the post Kobe life, much like they did in the years following Magic's retirement.

The scary thing is, outside of Kobe, Dwight Howard may be the only real valuable tradeable asset the Lakers have.

What a fugging mess.


I agree with almost everything you said. I can't figure out the Lakers either. They just fugging suck and they shouldn't.

However, you did say that they have 2 MVP's, the best C in basketball, the most skilled post player, and called MWP an all-star (kinda surprised that you didn't mention 2 DPOY). The thing is, Nash is way past his prime. He is terrible on defense, is slow as fug and just can't figure out how to get our bigs involved (I am sure that antoni is partly to blame). Dwight hasn't been healthy this entire season, and even if he were... I am not sure that he'd be a huge impact player tbh. He thinks that he is Shaq and demands the ball, but the fact of the matter is that he's one of the worst post players in the NBA (no, really -- go to synergy sports and check his points per possession -- hint: it's among the worst in the entire NBA). Dwight doesn't play D when he isn't engaged in offense... not the guy that I thought that we were getting. Lastly MWP is far from an all-star. He's a top 20 SF probably, but he's god the speed of a PF and struggles to stay in front of these quicker 3's these days... he's also extremely inconsistent on offense and is a bit of a ball stopper (Kobe can be as well, but at least he can get you 30 points on very good efficiency).

tl;dr: Lakers suck and I'm mad.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:39 AM

I hesitated to say anything but since you went there I do think Howard is a mental case at this point.
All the back and forth crap in Orlando last season and now this year.
And I thought Metta was a looney..........


Wonder what the chances of trading Dwight to Philly for 'Drew are? lol

I miss 'Drew :(

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:39 AM

I hesitated to say anything but since you went there I do think Howard is a mental case at this point.
All the back and forth crap in Orlando last season and now this year.
And I thought Metta was a looney..........


Wonder what the chances of trading Dwight to Philly for 'Drew are? lol

I miss 'Drew :(

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:36 AM

Just sad... Kobe is the only one that has pulled his weight all season. I feel bad for Kobe that he has to play with this joke of a team.


Yep, outside of Kobe, the only one who has any reason to be pissed is Earl Clark....

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:42 AM

http://basketball.re...ning_Is_DAntoni

http://basketball.re...Nash_Expendable

http://basketball.re...Before_Deadline

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:03 PM

Lakers should trade Dwight to Dallas for Dirk + a backup

Moves Gasol to the low post, provides much better court spacing. Just commit to the 2 year title window and forget about trying to rebuild around Dwight later.


I still really like this trade. All the old guys arent a great fit for Dantoni, but lets be honest thats not going to happen with this lakers team.

I'm pretty sure Nash- Kobe- Dirk- Gasol finds a way to make the playoffs, and if not at least it would be more entertaining. Plus there are enough vets that they can just tell Dantoni to go fug himself if he keeps trying to run his system

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:14 PM

I think a good trade scenario would be:

Los Angeles Lakers Acquire
PF Zach Randolph
SG Tony Allen

Memphis Grizzlies Acquire
PF Pau Gasol

Lakers get a quality big man in Zach Randolph and a serviceable Shooting Guard to spell Kobe
Memphis gets their franchise scoring leader and pair the big man with his brother.

Salaries match.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:53 PM

I think a good trade scenario would be:

Los Angeles Lakers Acquire
PF Zach Randolph
SG Tony Allen

Memphis Grizzlies Acquire
PF Pau Gasol

Lakers get a quality big man in Zach Randolph and a serviceable Shooting Guard to spell Kobe
Memphis gets their franchise scoring leader and pair the big man with his brother.

Salaries match.


Memphis just traded away all their SG depth, they arent going to trade Allen.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:26 AM

Tonight was Kobe's best game of the year by far. The balance on offense was beautiful.

6 guys getting 8 or more shots. 4 with 10 or more.

Great balance. Great game by Kobe.

Now they have to build off this. It is easy for Kobe to play that way when they are up by double digits most of the game. But he has to relinquish some of the scoring burden and he did that tonight and the Lakers were a better team because of it.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:45 AM

Tonight was Kobe's best game of the year by far. The balance on offense was beautiful.

6 guys getting 8 or more shots. 4 with 10 or more.

Great balance. Great game by Kobe.

Now they have to build off this. It is easy for Kobe to play that way when they are up by double digits most of the game. But he has to relinquish some of the scoring burden and he did that tonight and the Lakers were a better team because of it.


I don't think that Kobe necessarily wants to shoot the ball 25+ times. He has many games where he starts out sharing the ball, but most of the time the team is bricking everything so he starts trying to do all of the scoring himself. The team has to be more consistent and Kobe has to trust his teammates all game no matter what. Hopefully they do just that and the Lakers will be on their way. 2 biggest keys tonight were Kobe setting the tone on offense and Dwight setting the tone on defense and energy.

Also, for the people who watched the game... did you guys notice Nash playing a ton of off ball? It seems like Kobe was doing 75% of the primary ball handling, and I'm thinking that it's a good thing. Nash is a great passer, but he's slower, and not very quick these days so it's hard for him to create the same looks as he did in the past. I hope that we see much of the same in future games.


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