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I'm Defending Cam....

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cam still throwing to wide open people and rarely getting any one open with his throws. he's holdin onto the ball so much because he needs to see the player open before he throws it.

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Things you cannot really blame on anyone else...

- Holding the ball too long instead of either making the check-down or just throwing it away

- Throwing off his back foot even without pressure in his face

- Staring down receivers

- Bad reads

- Bad passes

Newton has done all of these in our losses this season.

You can argue whether it's Newton's fault or the coaching, but it's pretty hard to argue he isn't doing these things.

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So having no time to throw the ball and no Wr's getting open is Cam's fault?

I know that's a constant regurgitated talking point this afternoon but cam did make some bad decisions today all on his own.

One example is overthrowing a open Steve Smith by 10 yards in the first quarter.

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cam still throwing to wide open people and rarely getting any one open with his throws. he's holdin onto the ball so much because he needs to see the player open before he throws it.

Some of you are fuging stupid. Throw some body open like Armanti and watch it get tipped and int. Yeah that's smart.

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As awful as Cam played, it's not all his fault and he didn't give up.

That's all I have to say about that.

bingo.

people can't seem to tell that no one is hanging this squarely on cam's shoulders....he just isn't getting off the hook. he was guilty in helping lose this game.

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Things you cannot really blame on anyone else...

- Holding the ball too long instead of either making the check-down or just throwing it away

- Throwing off his back foot even without pressure in his face

- Staring down receivers

- Bad reads

- Bad passes

Newton has done all of these in our losses this season.

You can argue whether it's Newton's fault or the coaching, but it's pretty hard to argue he isn't doing these things.

His confidence is gone, mechanics gone to poo.

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i can point out negatives in every offensive player though.... our offense as a group is a complete disaster

ofcourse newton is the qb and will take all the blame

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he's a second year QB with a questionable QB and questionable WR depth

it's far too early to give up on him.

The pick six was his fault but he feels like he has to do everyting.

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chud has gone complete bonkers. yes, our D blows. yes, rivera is questionable at best. but, C'MON MAN! develop your qb. he's in his SECOND fuging year for fuging christ's sake.

Our D doesn't blow.....another solid day considering the opponent.

Until the end.....they held the Denver O to 13 pts and they got a late TD to make it 20. D is playing very well.

Chud just sucks. Lazy. Imploding the O.....asking too much of Cam and the OL. He should be taking pressure of both and helping the, succeed

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I know that's a constant regurgitated talking point this afternoon but cam did make some bad decisions today all on his own.

Well since Phill Simms was saying the same thing and then showed replays as proof. I'll go with that assessment.

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Cam did make a few poor plays. That pick 6 was indeed on Cam; he should have learned his lesson when he made a similar play to Olsen a few weeks ago.

But you know what? Peyton Manning turned the ball over, too. QBs make mistakes.

What you can't do is look at that play, or pick out a specific sack you think was on Cam, and use it to say Cam sucks as a whole. Because then you're discounting the 20 other plays where the offensive line let Miller through completely unblocked. He met Williams and Stewart in the backfield several times each, and he was in Cam's face the entire game.

Our line was unable to block them, and our coaches were either unable, or unwilling to adjust.

Cam succeeded today when he had good protection. He marched the team down the field efficiently for scores on both drives that his line blocked for him. Whether that was because the Broncos didn't send the house, or the blocking scheme worked better, I don't know; but I do know that Cam had a clean pocket on both TD drives.

I don't think anyone quit on anyone. If they did, they need to be cut immediately. I think we're just kidding ourselves that our undrafted RT, patchwork journeymen RG, back-up C, rookie LG, and declining LT are a capable unit.

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So why did they quit on him.

Manning used far less time to throw per play than Cam had.

We need to figure out passing plays that don't require 3-4 seconds per play.

Thats just it. You cannot play like you have 5 seconds to pass when you dont. You have to be decisive. Cam is still learning that part of the game. I hope he gets it.

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